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10-25-2003, 01:54 PM
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In NBA Live, Marbury is traditionally the faster player. When I first started playing that game, with Live 99, I would take Marbury and just use him on turbo the whole time, dish the ball off, then pass it back to him to run circles around guys and score. Literally, he could grab the rebound and still manage to get in front of EVERYONE and score.
Since Live 99 is right about everything in life there is to know, I go with Marbury.
On a more serious note,
AI is pound-for-pound the best basketball player in the NBA. I don't know how that works for a team like the Sixers, but if we're going to just go on singular player talent, Iverson is the one. Marbury has better stroke on his shot, but Iverson edges him out in handles, penetration, and ability to just will a team onward.
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10-25-2003, 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by popeyejones54!
Whered Anfernee get his nickname Penny from?
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From his grandmother I think, can't remember why though...
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In NBA Live, Marbury is traditionally the faster player. When I first started playing that game, with Live 99, I would take Marbury and just use him on turbo the whole time, dish the ball off, then pass it back to him to run circles around guys and score. Literally, he could grab the rebound and still manage to get in front of EVERYONE and score.
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Iverson was rated faster than Marbury...
Anyways...I love Marbury but it is hard to say he is better than Iverson.
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10-26-2003, 08:19 AM
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If I had to choose one player for my team it would be Starbury. That is saying alot b/c we Minny fans are still pissed at him for leaving Garnett!
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10-26-2003, 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by Showtyme!
Marbury has better stroke on his shot, but Iverson edges him out in handles, penetration, and ability to just will a team onward.
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No way.
Marbury is better at driving to the basket, getting into the paint. He is strong enough to absorb contact, he can turn the corner, he will find the open man and he has the best floater in the NBA that he learned from Gervin.
Marbury's handle and crossover are off the charts anyway.
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10-26-2003, 10:32 AM
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Marbury put up a hell of a season... and it got him closer to Iversonīs status, but just not there yet (IMO).
Iverson seems to make the most with less (supporting cast, i mean).
I know the East is the weakest conference (as in weeeeaaalest!), but AI gives me the feeling that if he was playing with Matrix and Amare, the sky would be the limit for that team (independent of conferences).
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10-26-2003, 03:45 PM
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AI fa sho, Starbury is pretty nice and his game is ill.
That's like comparing which meat would u prefer on your sandwich ham or turkey.
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10-26-2003, 03:55 PM
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Whered Anfernee get his nickname Penny from?
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His grandma called him "Pretty" but his friends thought she said "Penny" so they just started calling him that.
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10-27-2003, 04:07 AM
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yep
Penny meant Pretty.
I still love my man Penny. Ever since I was in like the 2nd Grade.
Id like to see him have a good year.
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10-27-2003, 08:27 AM
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Here is to all who say iverson shoots way too much, and marbury would score a lot more if he shot so much bla bla..
Now that's the only thing which marbury supporters hold against iverson right. Field goal percentage.
Last season
FGA
iverson 1,940 marbury 1,530
Points
iverson 2,262 marbury 1,806
points scored per FGA
iverson 1.166 marbury 1.180
If marbury took as many shots as iverson he would score
1.18 X 1940 = 2289 points
There u have it. He would score 27 points more than iverson in a span of 82 games = 0.3 points a game more than iverson
so much so for poor FG %
BigAmare,
heart is something that cannot be described accurately in words.. that's why they give that attribute an abstract name "heart". so don't ask why do u say iverson has more heart. you have to watch him play to feel it. And most people around the league accept that iverson has the most of that intangible attribute called "heart"
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10-27-2003, 08:59 AM
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lets see how the suns would have fared had they been in the east
they played 52 games against west teams and 30 games against east teams
26-26(.500) against west, and 18-12(.600) against east
now if they were in the east they would play 54 games against east teams and 28 against west teams
they win 54 X .6 = 32.4 games in the east and
they win 28 X .5 = 14 games in the west
total wins = 46 or 47 if u made 32.4 as 33
and guess what.. iverson had 48 wins. iverson played with snow and coleman while marbury played with marion and amare
SUNS WOULD BE WORSE THAN PHILY EVEN IF THEY PLAYED IN THE EAST.
Stats don't show everything. but stats usually don't lie.
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10-27-2003, 11:06 AM
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holy crap lone wolf. we were just speculating here. knocking around loose generalities. and you had to come in and drop the science...jeebus.
If I could give you a million star rating I would.
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10-27-2003, 11:55 AM
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 just some math for arguement
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10-27-2003, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by The lone wolf!
SUNS WOULD BE WORSE THAN PHILY EVEN IF THEY PLAYED IN THE EAST.
Stats don't show everything. but stats usually don't lie.
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10-27-2003, 02:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by The lone wolf!
Here is to all who say iverson shoots way too much, and marbury would score a lot more if he shot so much bla bla..
Now that's the only thing which marbury supporters hold against iverson right. Field goal percentage.
Last season
FGA
iverson 1,940 marbury 1,530
Points
iverson 2,262 marbury 1,806
points scored per FGA
iverson 1.166 marbury 1.180
If marbury took as many shots as iverson he would score
1.18 X 1940 = 2289 points
There u have it. He would score 27 points more than iverson in a span of 82 games = 0.3 points a game more than iverson
so much so for poor FG %
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You're either being deceptive here or you simply designed a poor model.
The reason for the disparity in points per FGA and FG% is free throw attempts. Iverson shoots more free throw attempts. If Marbury shot more, he'd generate more free throw attempts as well, and so his point per shot would also increase.
Marbury slashes as much, as a percentage of total shots, as Iverson does. Therefore, more drives to the hoop would translate into more shooting fouls, at the same rate Iverson or anyone else generate them on drives.
More shooting fouls = more free throws = more points per shot, which is already higher, despite Iverson shooting more free throws, due to field goal percentage.
Basically, if you even up shot attempts, you'd probably also end up evening up free throw attempts, based on the dynamics of the game, and thus field goal percentage would be the only factor differentiating each player's field goal percentage...and Marbury shoots a considerably better percentage.
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10-27-2003, 02:44 PM
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and Marbury shoots a considerably better percentage.
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Why?
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