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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Age: 34
Posts: 1,864
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Petey's right, fellas!
Spree doesn't have any trade value at all right now. And I think that the best way to shake things up in New York is to get rid of this guy.
My bet is that the guy who made the original post left out Wang Zhi Zhi, because HIS trade doesn't work under the cap, the salaries don't come CLOSE to matching up. But THIS trade DOES work:
Latrell Sprewell, Kurt Thomas, and Othella Harrington to the Mavs; Nick Van Exel, Wang Zhi Zhi, and Shawn Bradley to the Knicks
Wang Zhi Zhi would get something in the neighborhood of 3 years, $9 million. This trade seems totally fine to me, fellas. The Knicks would then offer Michael Redd the same deal that Minnesota offered Ricky Davis--6 years, $34 million. Are they overpaying for Michael Redd? Well, probably--but then again, this dude looked TOUGH down the stretch for the Bucks, he was TOUGH at Ohio State (I never did understand how he slipped to the 2nd round that year). The Bucks are having some pretty serious luxury tax issues right now (which is why they made that Glenn Robinson deal with Atlanta), and I seriously doubt that they would match if the Knicks offered Redd that kind of money. Redd would, of course, be the Knicks' starting SF.
Here's what the Knicks would look like after these two transactions:
Starting lineup
PG Nick Van Exel (32 minutes/game)
SG Allan Houston (32 minutes/game)
SF Michael Redd (32 minutes/game)
PF Antonio McDyess (32 minutes/game)
C Wang Zhi Zhi (24 minutes/game)
Key reserves: Clarence Weatherspoon (16 minutes/game), Shandon Anderson (16 minutes/game), Howard Eisley (12 minutes/game), Charlie Ward (12 minutes/game), Shawn Bradley (12 minutes/game), Michael Doleac (12 minutes/game), Frank Williams (8 minutes/game)
Stashed on the IR (no PT): Travis Knight
Isn't this Knicks team better than last year's Knicks? They're a LOT better at PG, whether you like Van Exel or not; they'll miss Thomas, but he wasn't a center, and this team doesn't need three power forwards (McDyess, Thomas, Weatherspoon); and, I know this sounds absurd, but I'd rather have a fresh face like Redd than Spree lingering around for the next three years. Of course, they still suck. Didn't Denver already try building a team around Van Exel and McDyess? Back when they were both better players? Uh, I don't remember that working out very well, you know what I'm saying?
BUT! Scott Layden's goal at this point ISN'T to win a championship, it's to continue to sell out Madison Square Garden and to keep his job for as long as possible. FIXING the Knicks would take YEARS, which is why you see increasingly ridiculous roster moves by Layden.
And you need to understand why getting rid of the team's two leaders--Spree and Thomas--is such a must. These two guys "led" the Knicks to a 30-win season last year. You have to shake things up when that happens. If you want this to be Antonio McDyess's team instead of Spree's team--and you do, right?--well, you're gonna have to get rid of Spree. Because, if you don't, you create a rift in the clubhouse. Spree AIN'T gonna just roll over and let this be somebody else's team. You gotta trade the dude. And, after everything Kurt Thomas has done for you over the past few years (I love that guy), you just CAN'T put him on the bench! You have two alternatives: 1) You let Thomas start at PF and bring McDyess off the bench, or 2) you trade Thomas. And, uh, the Knicks OBVIOUSLY aren't gonna go for that first option, fellas.
The key, of course, is signing Michael Redd, which I think will happen. Have I heard any "Redd to the Knicks?" rumors? Nope, I sure haven't. But the Bucks can't afford to re-sign this dude, trust me, ESPECIALLY if the Knicks offer him their full mid-level exception. I think you guys will be surprised at just how good Redd will be for the Knicks next year.
Anyway, The End of the Latrell Sprewell Era. Hmm. That dude sure was freaking tough for SEVERAL years for New York. I loved watching him play back when he was still really good, he had a LOT of guts. But he is past his prime, he really lost a step or two last year. He needs to go!
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Roby G.
Last edited by robyg1974 : 09-01-2002 at 09:23 PM.
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