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Old 08-18-2012, 11:59 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

This is a great deal for the Thunder, and a good deal for Ibaka. His game continues to grow each and every season, he's already a defensive monster, and I believe he will be a Garnett level type defender. He has all the speed and athleticism to hang with anyone in the league. He challenges himself, and other players regardless of the name on the back of their jersey. He's built like the terminator and he's only 22 years old. Add to the fact he's added a jump shot that is starting to become reliable. And if he continues to develop a low post game, he will exceed the expectations of this contract by leaps and bounds.


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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

I'd be very surprised if Harden is on the Thunder past this season. I just don't think OKC will shift their philosophy so much that they'll want to dig deep into luxury tax territory. Can they even afford to start doing that? It really wouldn't shock me to see Harden dealt in a S&T to Phoenix for something like Jared Dudley and 2 first round picks.

As for this Ibaka contract, it's a great deal for the Thunder. I think Ibaka could have gotten more if he hit the market - Dallas would have been willing to pony up some serious cash, no doubt.
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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

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I'd be very surprised if Harden is on the Thunder past this season. I just don't think OKC will shift their philosophy so much that they'll want to dig deep into luxury tax territory. Can they even afford to start doing that? It really wouldn't shock me to see Harden dealt in a S&T to Phoenix for something like Jared Dudley and 2 first round picks.

As for this Ibaka contract, it's a great deal for the Thunder. I think Ibaka could have gotten more if he hit the market - Dallas would have been willing to pony up some serious cash, no doubt.
This is like a joke or your schtick, right? You're doing a caricature of a Sam Smith or Peter Vecsey when you inconspicuously put one of these trade proposals in every single post you make, right?
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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

Yup, sure.
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Old 08-18-2012, 01:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

$12 million for a guy who was rendered unplayable during parts of the playoffs? Suspect but OKC will get the benefit of the doubt no matter what the value is on their contracts.
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$12 million for a guy who was rendered unplayable during parts of the playoffs? Suspect but OKC will get the benefit of the doubt no matter what the value is on their contracts.
Yep. And surprisingly no one talks about it.
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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

it's a good deal - the guy is a force on D, he will never be much offensively (that jump shot comment someone posted above? efg 42% (efg not fg so it's worse) last season according to 82 games) but for sure the total package is worth 10m especially with the quality bigs in the west (love, griffin, howard, duncan, pau, randolph, dirk etc) that you'd anticipate the thunder facing in the play-offs
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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

Harden will be a clipper next season
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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

The team that Harden would fit most logically in my mind is a team already loaded with young bigs that just needs that perimeter scorer to push them into contention. What about extended and traded Harden for extended and traded Al Jefferson and a first rounder? Who says no to that deal? That would make the Thunder literally unstoppable offensively and still very solid defensively with Thabo and Perk still under contract.
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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

Thing is Durant and them are young. Whatever you trade Harden for has to end up getting paid too, maybe not in the teens which Harden will probably get, but close enough to luxury tax territory where 3 years from now if they're having trouble as a team you might just wonder why they didn't keep him.

If he gets dealt it's for two players or a cheaper player and picks, so at least they get more bang for their buck. It makes no sense to me to trade him for another guy you're going to run into the same quandary with in a couple years.
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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

I think that deals show that the thunder have decide on ibaka instead of harden in which could be good or bad. I think 48 million dollars is too high for a great shot blocker but ibaka isnt the defender that a prime kg was thats for sure. Harden has the talent to be an allstar and deserves to be the starting sg but i guess brooks wants harden to be like left handed sg manu from the spurs.
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I'd be very surprised if Harden is on the Thunder past this season. I just don't think OKC will shift their philosophy so much that they'll want to dig deep into luxury tax territory. Can they even afford to start doing that? It really wouldn't shock me to see Harden dealt in a S&T to Phoenix for something like Jared Dudley and 2 first round picks.

As for this Ibaka contract, it's a great deal for the Thunder. I think Ibaka could have gotten more if he hit the market - Dallas would have been willing to pony up some serious cash, no doubt.
As a Suns fan, where do I sign?

I do think Harden wants to come back to AZ. And the Suns would welcome him more than they did Eric Gordon. Question is, are they going to be willing to pay him the amount of money some of these other teams will probably offer him on the open market
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As a Suns fan, where do I sign?

I do think Harden wants to come back to AZ. And the Suns would welcome him more than they did Eric Gordon. Question is, are they going to be willing to pay him the amount of money some of these other teams will probably offer him on the open market
If they were willing to pay EG the money, they will him. Plus, it's the same situation. He's limited to the same contract as him as well. He'll be RFA.
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Re: Thunder, Serge Ibaka agree to 4-yr/$48M extension

I guess it's harder to judge Harden because he plays behind Durant and Westbrook whereas Gordon has basically been the guy on his team so far(except 1 year with Blake Griffin, still debatable). Harden has the tools to be a great all around player but needs the opportunity. I'm willing to give him a try. He would fit nicely as our starting SG. Dragic, Harden, Beasley, Scola, Gortat

That's assuming we keep Scola.Otherwise; Dragic, Harden, Beasley, Morris, Gortat. Nice and young. Thought I'm still not overly impressed at the ceiling of this team.
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