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Babir · 04-25-2005, 11:30 PM

There is nothing but pain in my heart when I am watching Shaq's and T-Mac's team playing so good in playoffs...
I know you all were amazed with T-Mac's perfomance in Dallas last night...How was it? I wanted to cry...
It was discusses 1000 times but again...What if we didn't hire a hockey guy to run our team? What if we had normal GM out there who could negotiate things with T-Mac? Howard, Hill, Turk, T-MAC, Nelson, Gooden, Hunter, Bogans, Varejao, NORMAL COACH...

Just don't know how to express it all...

magicfan187 · 04-26-2005, 08:48 AM

well then you got to take off howard, nelson and varejao since he did draft them...never know who the other gm would have taken..and didnt this gm sign hedo?? so you'll probably have to take him off too..is that brandon hunter there?? take him off too since we got him with the bogans trade..

magicfan187 · 04-26-2005, 08:49 AM

o yeah you can throw in there lue, gaines and juwan howard too..though i dont think you'd want them lol...

LoyalBull · 04-26-2005, 10:17 AM

Obviously the issue comes at the expense of a few questionable moves.

But great players excelling elsewhere when they were no longer (by their own admission giving 100% for the team) isn't good for the pains or focus of the team.

What will make a difference is moving forward.

Howard has shown that he will be a Major force in this leauge.

Franchise CAN be a dominant point.

With a dominant point, a reasonably attractive free agent market, and a quality big man... thats not a bad place to start.

I (for one) am still perplexed at the Mobley for Christie deal.

However, with another solid draft, and committment from Franchise to dealing with the fact that Mobley is gone and its time to earn his namesake... this team has tools.

Captain Obvious · 04-26-2005, 12:26 PM

I enjoyed his performance and I'm rooting for the Rockets, but it is hard to see him do all of this on another team. We really need more competent management if we're ever going to be contenders again.

LoyalBull · 04-26-2005, 02:22 PM

Agreed.

But the problem is. Most times coaches/GMs aren't given time to allow their vision to come to fruition.

They get shuffled out the door, a new visionary comes in... and the revolving door continues.

Having said that, there ARE pieces to be excited about. Most teams clamor for all star calibur big men or point guards. You have both.

If Franchise decides to be a scoring guard. Great.

If he chooses to be a point guard. Great.

First step is choosing which role he is going to take.

hobojoe · 04-26-2005, 03:38 PM

This may sound strange, but I think I'm more of a T-Mac fan right now than I ever was in Orlando. I don't know what it is, maybe it's the way he's changed his game a bit in Houston to help benefit the team, and the fact that his defense is better than it ever was in Orlando, but he's extremely fun to watch right now and I'm rooting for Houston to win it all. I don't think they can beat the Suns, but if they find a way to knock them off in the next round, I don't think they'll be stopped. McGrady has played so well in the first two games of this series, I don't think he could have possibly done more.

Babir · 04-26-2005, 08:54 PM

magicfan187, I have said NORMAL GM and I am sure that normal GM could have made same decisions in draft and even better decisions in free agency...I don't want to argue, but I am sure that if we kept HAPPY T-Mac in Orlando, we all could posting now about our chances too win it all...

hobojoe, I think its too early too speak about Rockets-Suns series, Mavs are not done yet

LoyalBull, Steve would never be a SG...Starting backcourt of Nelson-Francise would not survive and we ll be out of playoffs again...

LoyalBull · 04-26-2005, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Babir

LoyalBull, Steve would never be a SG...Starting backcourt of Nelson-Francise would not survive and we ll be out of playoffs again...

Yeah. I get it.

Smallish backcourts arne't totally unrealistic in today's game however.

The beginning of the year Franchise was incredible, as the season progressed, his game seemed to regress!

**Mr. Predictable** · 04-27-2005, 05:53 AM

You are not alone

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You want to root for Magic players in the playoffs? It's easy -- if you can overlook the fact that they're now wearing other uniforms. The Magic may not have a legitimate center on their roster now, but they once had the two best big men in the East -- Shaq Daddy and Big Ben.

They also can lay claim to one of the best point guards in the playoffs (Chauncey Billups, Detroit Pistons), one of the best 3-point shooters (Cuttino Mobley, Sacramento Kings) and two of the hottest coaches (the Chicago Bulls' Scott Skiles and the Boston Celtics' Doc Rivers).

What is it -- some sort of black Magic reverse curse? The Magic fire Rivers as coach last year, and he leads the Celtics to their first division title in 13 years. They fail to hire Skiles, a former Magic player who then is tabbed by Chicago and leads the Bulls to their first postseason since Michael Jordan left in 1998.

And speaking of Jordan, T-Mac now is being compared to His Airness in Houston. Could it be any more sickening for Magic fans than to watch T-Mac soaring and dunking over 7-foot-6 Shawn Bradley and then hitting the game-winner to give the underdog Rockets a 2-0 lead over the Dallas Mavericks? What happened to that selfish, one-dimensional, no-defense-playing Me-Mac who quit on the Magic last year? Well, he had 28 points, 10 assists, eight rebounds, three blocked shots and three steals in Game 2.

WhoRocks · 04-27-2005, 08:48 AM

I feel your pain too Babir, but let's just look forward (see signature).

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Originally Posted by hobojoe

This may sound strange, but I think I'm more of a T-Mac fan right now than I ever was in Orlando. I don't know what it is, maybe it's the way he's changed his game a bit in Houston to help benefit the team, and the fact that his defense is better than it ever was in Orlando, but he's extremely fun to watch right now and I'm rooting for Houston to win it all. I don't think they can beat the Suns, but if they find a way to knock them off in the next round, I don't think they'll be stopped. McGrady has played so well in the first two games of this series, I don't think he could have possibly done more.

I reckon T-Mac's been able to change his game as the greater quality of the Houston team has allowed him to do so. It's not just the superstar who makes his team-mates better; this Houston team alows him to maximise his qualities - he's got an abundance of spot up shooters and also players like Yao who can create their own shot. T-Mac's also been able to play defence more aggresively; in Orlando if his man beat him it was automatic points, Houston on the other hand play good team defence. I agree it's great to watch him finally be able to play this way, and hopefully get out of the first round.

hobojoe · 04-27-2005, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoRocks

I feel your pain too Babir, but let's just look forward (see signature).

I reckon T-Mac's been able to change his game as the greater quality of the Houston team has allowed him to do so. It's not just the superstar who makes his team-mates better; this Houston team alows him to maximise his qualities - he's got an abundance of spot up shooters and also players like Yao who can create their own shot. T-Mac's also been able to play defence more aggresively; in Orlando if his man beat him it was automatic points, Houston on the other hand play good team defence. I agree it's great to watch him finally be able to play this way, and hopefully get out of the first round.

I agree that the Houston team right now is perfectly formed for McGrady's abilities and playing style. The abundance of perimeter shooters and a good second option and post option really fits T-Mac's game. He thrives on penetration kickouts, or penetrating and dishing it down low to Yao for a dunk. His improvements defensively don't surprise me one bit, I think most people figured it would improve with better teammates around him and less of a need to carry the entire offense by himself.

**JNice** · 04-27-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

I enjoyed his performance and I'm rooting for the Rockets, but it is hard to see him do all of this on another team. We really need more competent management if we're ever going to be contenders again.

**JNice** · 04-27-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hobojoe

This may sound strange, but I think I'm more of a T-Mac fan right now than I ever was in Orlando. I don't know what it is, maybe it's the way he's changed his game a bit in Houston to help benefit the team, and the fact that his defense is better than it ever was in Orlando, but he's extremely fun to watch right now and I'm rooting for Houston to win it all. I don't think they can beat the Suns, but if they find a way to knock them off in the next round, I don't think they'll be stopped. McGrady has played so well in the first two games of this series, I don't think he could have possibly done more.

I agree. I only wish I got to see him play more often during the season. I think it is easier to watch him now that he is not on Orlando because I don't feel as much of a need to defend him all the time, which is needed a lot less now that he is on a better team.

Tmac was amazing in Orlando, but I think he is playing the best he ever has right now. He has showed more fire and emotion in the 2 playoff games so far than I've ever seen from him. I hope he keeps it up. If he keeps playing at that type of level, on both ends of the court, he could easily go down as one of the best ever.

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