[Patrick]

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[OZZY]

Ok, You can say Best is a more economic pickup for Orlando than Billups fine!


But now way you think Best is better PG than Billups, Chauncey is a better 3 point shooter and is why stronger. Plus two words, Baron Davis if he is still on the Hornets. The Magic really got killed by big PG's and Billups would help stop that because of his size and strength.

I think it would be a great lineup to have
PG-Billups
SG-McGrady
SF-Hill
As the backcourt!


Better than
PG-Best
SG-McGrady
SF-Hill


Billups might need more $$$$$, but I say it is worth it.

[Patrick]

Oh lord, if you only knew how ridiculous your last post was.

First of all, whatever point guard we get is going to be third string because Grant Hill is set to be a PG. We don't even need a third PG but we're taking gonna go for it because maybe Hill might get injured again. So do you understand what I mean? this is the starting linuep:

PG-Grant Hill
SG-Tracy McGrady
SF-Mike Miller


BTW, Chauncy Billups won't accept that role and I don't think the Best will accept it either so let's hope Vaughn will. Don't be fooled by Billups scoring either, I've never thought that he's a true PG really. Best would be the better of the two IMO.

[OZZY]

OK, that is all fine.

But you said it yourself that Hill will play the PG for the team and I hope he does, I hope he doesn't lose any of his game before the injury.

But if Hill will play PG that is even more reason to take Billups as the position PG. Because as you said again Billups doesn't have a great handle, but that would not matter if Hill does most of the handling dutes. So then Billups can just score off of open shots, and there will be plenty of those if Hill and Tracy play a full year together.

And Billups I think would be better for defense as well as offense than Best. Best is a lot slower and weaker than he once was, he is not the little pitbull he was before, he has lost a lot of his game. Why else would the Pacer start a rookie all year last year. Billups once again could guard the big PG's in the East, mainly Davis now answer me this. Who would you want guarding Davis in a playoff series, Best or Billups?????

Best is not even close to the baller he once was!

[Patrick]

I'm sorry but I fail to see what you're talking about. Or maybe you haven't heard of Darell Armstrong? He's going to be energized and coming off the bench at the point guard position. Billups won't accept the role and he'd never be playing at the same time as Hill because DA is the backup anyways, you know? Two players of the same position don't play at the same time, I thought you knew that!

Listen bro, we don't need such a defensive stellar player. I've never thought highly of Billups defense so I've got no idea what you're talking about either, Best has NBA finals experience and he knows he isn't in his prime anymore so he'd be a perfect fit.

Billups is a scoring threat but with Tracy McGrady, Mike Miller and Grant Hill we are not in need for another threat. Hell, Pat Garrity will get alot of open shots when T-Mac and Hill will be double teamed and stuff.

Thank you and I hope you finally get my point.

[OZZY]

I respect what you are saying, but have you seen Billups play last year? He started for the hole second half of the season and you talk about him like he comes off the bench, **** he started in the playoffs!

And yes Best will probably be a good fit, but I'm looking at it with Mike Miller gone, if Mike was to get traded Billups would be the better player.

And Billups is not a ball hog, Best is a small little weak guard and is a horrible defender. And by horrible I mean weak and not tough, Billups plays tough he might get beat once and awhile but he is a fighter. Best on the other hand is small and I don't see him as being a tough. I would rather have a PG than will give a hard foul to a big man or drive the lain and get knocked down than a small PG that sits outside of the paint not mixing it up. Billups is a competitor and I would want him on the Magic. But once again that would be if they lose Miller, and they probably will if a team really wants him.

I say trade Miller and keep Monty and Pat, **** Monty was way better in the playoffs than Miller was. And if Miller ever left, a 3 point shooter would be needed, and that is Chauncey.

[Patrick]

I'm talking about him about coming off the bench because Grant Hill will be the starting point guard, how hard is that to get?!

Mike doesn't wanna get traded, he wants to stay in Orlando and has said he will change his work ethic and work his @$$ off to have a break-out year in 02-03.

Oh and when did I call Billups a ballhog? I'm begging you to find me saying he is a ballhog, stop making up stuff dude. Best may be weak but he's a good jump shooter for a first and he's all we need as a third string PG. Billups is not even useless but he's not a true PG from what i've seen of him, he's a shoot first point guard which alot of people don't fancy all that much and I don't either.

Mike Miller hardly got minutes in the playoff because of his ankle, how do you build such a ridiculous judgement? Oh lord!

[OZZY]

You seriously believe that Grant Hill can play a full season at PG? I promise you he will not be doing that! Hill remember is coming off of two strait years out of basketball. I don't think he can keep up with PG's in the East at all. For one it would be bad physically and two he has never played full time PG ever before. And when I say Grant should play PG I mean he should bring the ball up the court once in a while, or he should get the ball on top of the key to start the offense. I think Grant would have real trouble guarding a PG all game long! Yeah you probably heard that about the big frount court lineup before, but that would work a lot better with a big PG like Sasser, Bozeman, Gaines, Crawford, not Hill at PG. The lineup of Hill/McGrady/Miller is not going to work trust me.

Ok keep Miller and sign the lesser PG in Best but I just have a different view on where the team should go, and that is not it.
I stick with

Starting backcourt
1)Billups---backup- Armstrong
2)McGrady
3)Hill

I don't see where you are getting that Billups would be a 3rd string PG? I would be awesome if Hill could play PG but I don't think he can full time.
Could Hill guard Marbury/Kidd/Payton/Anderson/Strickland/Stoudamire/Miller/Davis/Terry/Parker/Wagner/...........

I don't think his legs would hold up through a hole season guarding PG's like that. You obviously see things differently than me, but don't be suprised if Mike Miller is gone next year.

[Patrick]

OK this is my last response and I am gonna write it in a way even you can understand. Grant Hill is going to play point guard according to Doc Rivers so it doesn't matter if you think he can guard them or not besides Mike Miller should be a starter.

Offcourse Grant won't be able to play fulltime, do you read any of my post? Darell Armstrong will be an energizer bunny and Hill will offcourse have limited minutes and kinda have some type of rehab before he can play 45+ minutes.

I'm out cause you're getting (XXXXXXXXXthis is UNacceptable - please do not call other posters by that adjective - it is name calling. Thanks for your cooperation.) consistently saying Hill won't play PG and all that with the same horrible reasoning. Hill's gonna be a PG and we've heard it for a long time okay?

BTW, Jeff McInnis was contacted by the Magic yesterday according to ESPNews.

[Chops]

Ozzy, why would the Magic want Billups? He is going to command a pretty large contract after his performance in this years playoffs and quite frankly, he just isn't worth it. Especially for what will most likely be a third string PG. A more realistic target would probably be Travis Best or McInnis because they would be more willing to sit on the bench and play for a winning team. They also wont demand as much money.

Just a thought......

[Patrick]

Amen to that, I've been trying to tell him that all along but offcourse he won't listen.

[OZZY]

I guess I still don't see why you guys think Hill can be a starting PG.

I just want Chauncey because he is a tough damn basketball player and has attitude, I think the Magic will need that in the playoffs because Tracy can't do it all attitude wise. And about the $$$ it would cost, well yeah I think he would want about 6-8 million a year because he had 4 mill last year. And maybe your right it is not a good move to pay him that much but I still don't think Best will do **** on the team.

But if he will be a third string PG, they yeah he could be a good sign, but I REALLY hope they don't want a player just to be a damn 3rd stringer. And why in the hell can't Sasser play some PG anyway? He could be the ****ing 3rd stringer, way better matchup problem than Best would be.


THE END

[Patrick]

Hill is gonna play PG whether you think he can or not, hands down.

Offcourse Best won't do anything, all we need is a 3rd string PG which we really don't need but just as a safe bet if Hill gets injured so DA would have backup.

Now do you get it?

[MacDanny 6]

Who said Hill was going to play PG? They also said that last year and he played his normal position.

[Patrick]

Doc Rivers. Darell Armstrong is gonna have a bench role and Hill is