Reply

Old 05-30-2003, 10:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
Enigma
-PREMIUM MEMBER-
 
Enigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Parts unknown
Posts: 2,677
Credits: 4,102.17
Rep Power: 1568281 Enigma has a reputation beyond repute Enigma has a reputation beyond repute Enigma has a reputation beyond repute Enigma has a reputation beyond repute Enigma has a reputation beyond repute Enigma has a reputation beyond repute Enigma has a reputation beyond repute Enigma has a reputation beyond repute Enigma has a reputation beyond repute Enigma has a reputation beyond repute Enigma has a reputation beyond repute
Free Agent Market

Here are some of the guys available at each position, who do you guys think we should target?

*=restricted free agent

PG:
Jason Kidd
Gilbert Arenas
Gary Payton
Andre Miller*
Jason Terry*
Darrell Armstrong
Antonio Daniels

SG:
Richard Hamilton*
Corey Maggette*
Jon Barry
Raja Bell
Jimmy Jackson
Felipe Lopez
Lucious Harris

SF:
Lamar Odom*
Scottie Pippen
Stephen Jackson
Jumaine Jones*
James Posey*
Walter McCarty
Darvin Ham

PF:
Jermaine O'Neal
Elton Brand*
Karl Malone
P.J. Brown
Juwan Howard
Kenny Thomas*
Donnell Harvey

C:
Michael Olowokandi
Brad Miller
Alonzo Mourning
Elden Campbell
Radoslav Nesterovic
Loren Woods
Vladimir Stepania



1)Notice all the Clippers- With the Clippers history, they won't all be re-signed.

2)Andre Miller is the player I wish the Magic could land at PG. Yes, his home is Utah, and yes Utah will have tons of cap space. My hope is that after playing for the Cavs and Clips, he'll want to play with a good team and it doesn't look like Utah will be one for awhile.

3)As for a big man: J O'Neal and Brand are big reaches. Some trades would have to be made to acquire either one of those guys. Olowokandi is a possibility. Brad Miller would be pretty good, but P.J. Brown or Juwan Howard should be targeted IMO. Zo is the wild-card. If he's healthy, he'd be perfect, but that's a big if.

4)Donnell Harvey would be a great pickup if we could get him cheap.

What do you guys think?
__________________
"You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours." -- Yogi Berra.

Ten reasons why I'm a procrastinator:
1.
Enigma is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 05-31-2003, 11:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
TheRifleman
All-Star
 
TheRifleman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: tornado alley
Age: 54
Posts: 8,236
Credits: 5,691.75
Rep Power: 81378 TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute TheRifleman has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Free Agent Market

Quote:
Originally posted by Enigma!
Here are some of the guys available at each position, who do you guys think we should target?

*=restricted free agent

PG:
Jason Kidd
Gilbert Arenas
Gary Payton
Andre Miller*
Jason Terry*
Darrell Armstrong
Antonio Daniels

SG:
Richard Hamilton*
Corey Maggette*
Jon Barry
Raja Bell
Jimmy Jackson
Felipe Lopez
Lucious Harris

SF:
Lamar Odom*
Scottie Pippen
Stephen Jackson
Jumaine Jones*
James Posey*
Walter McCarty
Darvin Ham

PF:
Jermaine O'Neal
Elton Brand*
Karl Malone
P.J. Brown
Juwan Howard
Kenny Thomas*
Donnell Harvey


C:
Michael Olowokandi
Brad Miller
Alonzo Mourning
Elden Campbell
Radoslav Nesterovic
Loren Woods
Vladimir Stepania



1)Notice all the Clippers- With the Clippers history, they won't all be re-signed.

2)Andre Miller is the player I wish the Magic could land at PG. Yes, his home is Utah, and yes Utah will have tons of cap space. My hope is that after playing for the Cavs and Clips, he'll want to play with a good team and it doesn't look like Utah will be one for awhile.

3)As for a big man: J O'Neal and Brand are big reaches. Some trades would have to be made to acquire either one of those guys. Olowokandi is a possibility. Brad Miller would be pretty good, but P.J. Brown or Juwan Howard should be targeted IMO. Zo is the wild-card. If he's healthy, he'd be perfect, but that's a big if.

4)Donnell Harvey would be a great pickup if we could get him cheap.

What do you guys think?
THIS post is like a christmas "wish-list"! There are many here that any Magic fan would want and the one free agent on that list I would like for the magic to NOT resign is Darrell Armstrong. His body is older than its years and that is NOT good.
__________________
Bad Bartons:"Looking at the world through emerald colored glasses -

JNice's Supporting Member Custom Avs
TheRifleman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2003, 03:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
Yyzlin
Sweet as Wildhoney
 
Yyzlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: North Carolina
Age: 21
Posts: 4,393
Credits: 2,078.00
Rep Power: 2923 Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute Yyzlin has a reputation beyond repute
I disagree, RifleMan. I would love for Armstrong to come back, as long as the price is cheap. He does all the little things right and sets a great example for the rest of the team. Then again, I may just be biased. He IS one my favorite players.

As for free agents, I have to see how the Magic draft. I would like to see Orlando land A. Miller. He is a top notch PG, IMO. This year was an abberation and not the norm.
Yyzlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2003, 04:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
JNice
kiss my grits
 
JNice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Riva View, FL
Age: 29
Posts: 18,000
Credits: 31,081.63
Rep Power: 5408058 JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute
I think we should keep Armstrong. I doubt he will demand much money.

I think PJ Brown or Brad Miller would be our best improvement possibilities for C. We need to stay away from Juwan Howard, although he is probably going to LA.

I am not so sure about Andre Miller ... I'd rather draft Barbosa than sign Miller, but that is just a personal opinion.
JNice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2003, 08:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
c_dog
Star
 
c_dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Age: 23
Posts: 4,276
Credits: 6,669.06
Rep Power: 1108616 c_dog has a reputation beyond repute c_dog has a reputation beyond repute c_dog has a reputation beyond repute c_dog has a reputation beyond repute c_dog has a reputation beyond repute c_dog has a reputation beyond repute c_dog has a reputation beyond repute c_dog has a reputation beyond repute c_dog has a reputation beyond repute c_dog has a reputation beyond repute c_dog has a reputation beyond repute
How about signing Samaki Walker for the center position? He's not the best center, but he's legit. Sign him cheap, and he can either start, or at worst, play back up C/PF. He's certainly an upgrade over what we have right now... that's only, of course, if we can't get big free agents like the ones mentioned above.
c_dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2003, 06:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
JNice
kiss my grits
 
JNice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Riva View, FL
Age: 29
Posts: 18,000
Credits: 31,081.63
Rep Power: 5408058 JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute JNice has a reputation beyond repute
No way. Walker was pretty much terrible in LA, a team where they desperately were looking for PF help and a C backup. Hell, Mark Madsen was getting minutes over him. No way.
JNice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2003, 04:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
Muffin
BasketballBoards 6th Man
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Chi-town
Posts: 447
Credits: -410.00
Rep Power: 5372 Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute
I would think that free agents would want to come to Orlando just to play with T-MAc. He is the best attraction there (and there are quite a bit of great atttractions). For the most part, the restricted FA may need to be involved in a sign and trade deal so the former team could get something oin return. The Magic don't have anything to offer but Grant Hill

So let's narrow the list down. Salary-wise, the Magic are in a good position. T-Mac and Grant make about 13.5 a piece this year. Adding the other salaries makes it about 33 mill. They could sign some serious players with that room. Hopefully, they can get some injury exception with Grant's salary just in case he's washed up.

PG: Arenas. He's the best bet out of the PG. His agent claims it's gonna take more than 7 mil a year. Even with 8, the MAgic could still afford a little more help. BUT, his asking price still may be too high. See if you could sign him for 35 mil/5 yrs.

SG: I totally can see Jon Barry in Orlando for next to nothing money-wise. Use the MLE on him. Is Giricek still signed or is his contract up?

SF: Wouldn't worry about this position. T-Mac is a monster when he plays the 3.

PF: I like Drew. I say put all the efforts of free agency at the 1 and 5 spot.

C: Go for Kandi. He should be able to grab many boards for T-Mac and company. The Magic needs a center who won't be looking for his shot all the time. Try to sign him for 25 mill/ 5 yrs.

PG: Arenas
SG: Giricek
SF: T-Mac
PF: Drew
C: Kandi

This could be a championship team.
__________________
It is the little comments like that that seem to reveal the true nature of a person.
Muffin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2003, 08:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
NugzFan
All-Star
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: I love the bulls!!!
Posts: 5,529
Credits: 3,924.56
Rep Power: 178562 NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute NugzFan has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally posted by Muffin!PG: Arenas. He's the best bet out of the PG. His agent claims it's gonna take more than 7 mil a year. Even with 8, the MAgic could still afford a little more help. BUT, his asking price still may be too high. See if you could sign him for 35 mil/5 yrs.
wtf? the magic have no cap space. his agent wants a starting contract of more than 7 per...not an AVERAGE. pay attention.
NugzFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2003, 09:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
OZZY
The one and only Avril
 
OZZY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Minnesota
Age: 24
Posts: 6,750
Credits: 4,675.18
Rep Power: 20791 OZZY has a reputation beyond repute OZZY has a reputation beyond repute OZZY has a reputation beyond repute OZZY has a reputation beyond repute OZZY has a reputation beyond repute OZZY has a reputation beyond repute OZZY has a reputation beyond repute OZZY has a reputation beyond repute OZZY has a reputation beyond repute OZZY has a reputation beyond repute OZZY has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
*=restricted free agent

PG:
Jason Kidd
Gilbert Arenas
Gary Payton
Andre Miller*
Jason Terry*
Darrell Armstrong
Antonio Daniels

SG:
Richard Hamilton*
Corey Maggette*
Jon Barry
Raja Bell
Jimmy Jackson
Felipe Lopez
Lucious Harris

SF:
Lamar Odom*
Scottie Pippen
Stephen Jackson
Jumaine Jones*
James Posey*
Walter McCarty
Darvin Ham

PF:
Jermaine O'Neal
Elton Brand*
Karl Malone
P.J. Brown
Juwan Howard
Kenny Thomas*
Donnell Harvey

C:
Michael Olowokandi
Brad Miller
Alonzo Mourning
Elden Campbell
Radoslav Nesterovic
Loren Woods
Vladimir Stepania

My wist list.


1)Jermaine O'Neal- where did all the $$$ for Duncan go?
2)Karl Malone- would be a great low post presence.
3)Michael Olowokandi- young big man one of the NBA's best centers.
4)PJ Brown- great defender and is a experience playoff preformer.
5)Brad Miller- scrappy center that would be a good fit.
6)Andre Miller- would be a great fit and can run a team
7)Juwan Howard- competitive player that works very hard.


I would say Gary Payton but I just don't see that.

Cheap pickups that could help.


*Donnell Harvey- If the Magic want to go cheap, Harvey is a must, I love this kid, have always thought they should get him.

*Loren Woods- athletic shot blocker that has some promise, firery player.

*Jon Barry- great leader, tough competitor and would be a good open shooter.

*Antonio Daniels- if he is cheap it is worth a shot.


P.S. I hope was re-sign Darrell, he is the heart of this team, we can't just throw him away.
OZZY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2003, 07:07 AM   #10 (permalink)
Muffin
BasketballBoards 6th Man
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Chi-town
Posts: 447
Credits: -410.00
Rep Power: 5372 Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute Muffin has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally posted by NugzFan!
his agent wants a starting contract of more than 7 per...not an AVERAGE. pay attention.
Pay attention to what? What exactly are you saying?
__________________
It is the little comments like that that seem to reveal the true nature of a person.
Muffin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Vollyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios