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Duck34234 · 10-07-2007, 01:08 PM

Does anyone else think Ariza can play a Shawn Marion-esqe role for us at the 4 this season?

I would really, really like to see James Augustine step up and play a big defensive role for us this season. I agree with the majority of you in that I too believe Foyle should be coming off the bench for us. However, I think when we play teams like the Spurs, Celtics, Mavs, he will see extended minutes for us (a la Kurt Thomas for the Suns last season).

I think the most balanced starting lineup we could ask for would be the following:

Nelson
Bogans
Lewis
Ariza
Howard

Ariza is our second best rebounder, but I'm in doubt as to whether he can defend the majority of the inside guys in the NBA. His mobility, slahing and ability to hit a 10' jumper (well, at least better than Battie did) will then free up the paint even more for Howard.

Hairy Midget · 10-07-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MickyEyez

does anyone realize that shard cannot hang on defense playing the 4?

How is he going to defend KG, Bosh, Randolph, etc.

he will get rotated around to that position at certain points in a game, but he cannot handle that position full time.

I don't get why people don't use their head.

Dwight would obviously guard the other teams best big man, and Rashard would have to be guarded by the other teams big man, who couldn't stay with him.

MickyEyez · 10-07-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck34234

Does anyone else think Ariza can play a Shawn Marion-esqe role for us at the 4 this season?

I would really, really like to see James Augustine step up and play a big defensive role for us this season. I agree with the majority of you in that I too believe Foyle should be coming off the bench for us. However, I think when we play teams like the Spurs, Celtics, Mavs, he will see extended minutes for us (a la Kurt Thomas for the Suns last season).

I think the most balanced starting lineup we could ask for would be the following:

Nelson
Bogans
Lewis
Ariza
Howard

Ariza is our second best rebounder, but I'm in doubt as to whether he can defend the majority of the inside guys in the NBA. His mobility, slahing and ability to hit a 10' jumper (well, at least better than Battie did) will then free up the paint even more for Howard.

Ariza, like Shard could easily play the position... but over the long haul, it just won't work. We would get exposed inside throughout the whole season. Dwight can't just keep rotating all over the place to help everyone.

If Ariza had more bulk, i'd be all for it... Marion is not huge and i understand that, but he is still big enough to hold down that position... and also keep in mind that Phoenix plays a completely different style of ball than we do. In their system Barbosa could play the 4 and they would still score and not play any defense.

MickyEyez · 10-10-2007, 12:29 PM

Otis' response on what he wants to do in replacing Batman. absolutely incompetent... doesn't have a good answer on what he wants to do... he would rather just play things out for now, and when he realizes that we need another big he will scramble.

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From Matthew (10/8): Hi Otis, I was wondering what you were planning on doing about losing Tony Battie? It has such a large affect if you want to use Rashard Lewis at small forward and occasionally play him at the 4 position to increase the tempo. I was wondering if you were considering getting another big man? Tony Battie is a veteran, and who knows how much longer he'll play and Foyle is not a permanent solution. Would you consider trying to trade with Atlanta for one of their young power forwards. With a first round draft pick you probably wouldn't have to give up to much more. And with the Magic on the edge of a breakout season the pick shouldn't end up in the lottery, and a guy like Shelden Williams would really shore up the front court.

Otis: Matthew, Thanks for taking the time to write me. Yes, I know it's been a long time since you guys have heard from me. But you also know the summer was VERY busy for me. I do miss you guys. And all the options you come with for trades, etc.!

Well, for the record, you don't replace Tony and the things he brings to your team. You just can't. What Tony does for your team doesn't always show up in the box score. He is smart and he organizes your team from inside and out. So a knee jerk reaction is not what we need in this situation.

Maybe help comes from within. Maybe you play smaller at times, maybe you play even bigger at times. The point is let's see first before running out and signing another player.

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Feed_Dwight · 10-10-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MickyEyez

Otis' response on what he wants to do in replacing Batman. absolutely incompetent... doesn't have a good answer on what he wants to do... he would rather just play things out for now, and when he realizes that we need another big he will scramble.

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Maybe he's hoping he will see a rise in trade value of players like Arroyo, Bogans, Garrity, etc in SVG's new system. It'd be nice to be able to get a quality big man without giving up one or more of our core players. I'm pretty sure we'll see him make a move for a big man by the trade deadline. If not, we break out the torches and pitch forks.

billfindlay10 · 10-10-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Feed_Dwight

Maybe he's hoping he will see a rise in trade value of players like Arroyo, Bogans, Garrity, etc in SVG's new system. It'd be nice to be able to get a quality big man without giving up one or more of our core players. I'm pretty sure we'll see him make a move for a big man by the trade deadline. If not, we break out the torches and pitch forks.

What teams have a glut of quality big men that they are willing to trade? It will take giving up one rotation guy to get a player capable of playing any real minutes.

MickyEyez · 10-10-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Feed_Dwight

Maybe he's hoping he will see a rise in trade value of players like Arroyo, Bogans, Garrity, etc in SVG's new system. It'd be nice to be able to get a quality big man without giving up one or more of our core players. I'm pretty sure we'll see him make a move for a big man by the trade deadline. If not, we break out the torches and pitch forks.

I'm with you brother.

Feed_Dwight · 10-11-2007, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by billfindlay10

What teams have a glut of quality big men that they are willing to trade? It will take giving up one rotation guy to get a player capable of playing any real minutes.

Garrity, Dooling, and Arroyo all have $4 million expiring contracts. We could easily get a quality, overpaid backup center for a first round pick and one of those guys. Throw in Turk, and we could get someone capable of starting at PF.

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