Babir

So, we could have Webber and Ariza, but instead we traded Trevor for Cook and Evans...We wanted another "big", but I think Cook is really far from being a "big" in this league...One of the issues with Webber was his defense, but he is bigger than Cook and has more experience and plays better D than Brian anyway...Evans is showing some hustle, but Ariza could be used in this role too, Trevor is also bigger, more athletic and younger, and also he could be used in a better trade...

What do you think?

Feed_Dwight

Webber and Ariza can't shoot 3's, and Webber has an attitude. I'm not a big fan of Cook, but at least he's not a negative in the locker room.

Idunkonyou

Webber is a cancer. Why do you think the Pistons said bye?

Cook and Evans will give us more than those two. Fact. Ariza didn't even play tonight.

Babir

Now I am very confident that we had to keep Ariza and to sign Webber...

DaRizzle

On behalf of all Laker fans I want to thank the Magic for taking that bum Cook and so so role player Evans. We all would have been fine if Ariza had been a bum because we still got rid of Cook's contract, but he has been anything but. His jump shot is UGLY but everthing else has been great. Good D, and lots of aggression has bolted Ariza into regular minutes with the "bench mob". Pretty impressive when Phil Jackson is the coach. So once again....thank you.

Idunkonyou

Ariza didn't fit our offense. End of story.

deanwoof

there's gotta be a reason Ariza has been bounced around. he's already on his 3rd team in 4 years.

he's going to be a ruben patterson type player, sans nanny situation. pure hustle. no offense.

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TakaraJinRoh

From my understanding. Webber wants to start with the Magics. Around the time that rumor was brewing up, the Magics we're rolling and there's simply no need to change that chemistry by adding a player who is past his prime.

Webber is not going to add much help to us. And I dont like his "I deserve to start because im a veteran attitude". Ariza has always been a great hutle, energy, quick spurt offense type of player. Unless he develops a consistent mid range jumper,then he will always stay that way.


But thats not necessarily a bad thing. Player like in Ariza's mold are far and between. With today's influx ofswing players who only concentrates on scoring, it would'nt hurt to have someone like Ariza on the bench.


I still think it was a bad trade for the Magics. Cook has not given us the type of offense we needed from him. He's 3-14 beyond the arc the last 5 games. LA on the other hand has been rolling, and Ariza's play has been quite beneficial for them.

Babir

One of the issues with Webber was his defense, but it is clear that even now he is a 10 time better defender than Cook will ever be...Cook did not play at all against Houston! We had to give minutes to terrible Garrity again! Evans is an average player, Ariza was much better finisher, defender, rebounder and was younger...And of course we could have used him in better trade...

Babir

Ariza had a great game tonight against the Suns...

Jizzy

with Bogans, Turkl and Shard, did you really need another shooter? atleast Riz could slash and finish in the paint.

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TakaraJinRoh

Trevor can do a lot of things. he's Mr. Intangibles. SVG just doesnt know how to use him, just like his previous coaches. Phil maximize his skills and put it to good use.



Damn it, I cant believe Mitch actually out smarted us.

Idunkonyou

The reason he is putting up numbers is because he is getting minutes. Just about any scrub in the league could do what Ariza is doing right now if they got 35 to 40 minutes. He wasn't going to get that time here and is a player that needs time on the floor like that to be effective. He is not suited for the bench, but I wouldn't call him a quality starter either. He is kind of inbetween. Maybe he will learn to shoot the ball some day, otherwise he will be journeyman for the rest of his career.

Babir

Trevor Ariza is a better player than Cook and Evans together...Moreover we could use him in a better deal...

Idunkonyou

If that is the case then why didn't we? Also Evans has been a solid contributing player for us on defense and offense. That is just a fact. I'm not sure about Cook. He is basically a guy who IMO will be packaged either this year or next year in a trade or he could flat out be waived if Fran comes over from Spain.