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**Blue Magic** · 07-14-2008, 06:16 PM

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ORLANDO -- The Orlando Magic have held serious trade talks with the Memphis Grizzlies about point guard Javaris Crittenton, proof that the Magic have abandoned any serious hopes of retaining combo guard Keyon Dooling.
Dooling, Orlando’s top reserve off the bench last season, blasted the Magic on Monday for offering him their Bi-Annual Exception, a contract that would be worth $4.2 million for two years. Dooling, who made $3.5 million last season while averaging 8.1 points and 1.8 assists, summarily rejected the offer saying he was ``insulted’’ by it.
``I don’t even know why they offered that bi-annual because I rejected it right away. I don’t know if they were trying to devalue me or whatever the case may be, but that wasn’t acceptable,’’ said Dooling, Orlando’s top on-ball defender last season. ``It’s ridiculous. That’s not a suitable offer for someone who was a good player on a good team. It wasn’t a market value offer and that’s the bottom line.’’

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``I’m frustrated because I thought their intentions were different,’’ Dooling fumed. ``More than frustrated, I guess I’d say I’m insulted by it. I thought they valued what I bring as a player and a person, but maybe I had an inflamed opinion of what they thought about me.
``We’re not talking the same language. I don’t know if the door is closed (on a return to the Magic), but we’re not talking the same language. But I’m not doing any of the door closing. It’s being closed in my face.’’

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The agent for Memphis’ Crittenton, Wallace Prather, said he was aware that the Magic had started trade talks with the Grizzlies about his client. Memphis has a logjam at point guard after adding rising stars Mike Conley and O.J. Mayo in the past two drafts. Crittenton, whom Memphis acquired in the Pau Gasol trade with the Lakers, would welcome a move to Orlando where playing time might be more readily available.
``I know there’s a lot of interest between the two teams and I have a call in to Otis (Smith) to talk to him about it,’’ Prather said on Monday. ``We know a lot of the players on the Magic team, so it would be a good fit for Javaris.’’
In other news, Glenn Schwartzman, the agent for Darrell Armstrong and Michael Doleac, has spoken to the Magic about interest in the veteran point guard and reserve center. Nothing is imminent at the time, Schwartzman said, but Orlando could seemingly use help at both positions. And the Magic are infinitely familiar with both players.

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbc...yCurrentPage=0

Very interesting! Jarvis and Dwight played AAU ball together so i'm sure they're very familiar with each other! I don't even know what to say about Dooling right now tho. He sounds extremely disappointed......looks like he is pretty much as good as gone, but if we could land Critt that would make him a non-factor. I like like Dooling, but business is business.

Picking up Lee, Pietrus, & Crittenton along with someone like Doleac would be solid. I'd be ecstatic with the moves this off season and the team going forward.

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**thaKEAF** · 07-14-2008, 06:18 PM

There's really nothing Orlando has that I'd want for Critt. Maybe Dwight? :wink:

**Blue Magic** · 07-14-2008, 06:29 PM

^ haha....i'm hearing something like Bogans(expiring) or JJ Redick(expires in '10) and a future 1st.....Critt is by far the most talented of those three, but i guess you guys need to dump a PG somewhere and either want an expiring for cap space or a pure shooter.....we got both.

....i agree tho, i think Bogans for Critt straight up would be a steal.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 07-14-2008, 06:31 PM

Memphis was willing to trade Crittenton for a shot at Courtney Lee on draft night, but couldn't get it done.

Something tells me that if they can't get Lee, Crittenton will be staying put. At least as far as Orlando is concerned. There's no way Javaris gets traded for freaking Keith Bogans.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 07-14-2008, 06:31 PM

And LOL at a scrub like Keyon Dooling being offended.

**Blue Magic** · 07-14-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinco de Mayo

Memphis was willing to trade Crittenton for a shot at Courtney Lee on draft night, but couldn't get it done.

Something tells me that if they can't get Lee, Crittenton will be staying put. At least as far as Orlando is concerned. There's no way Javaris gets traded for freaking Keith Bogans.

......Well Lee already signed his rookie contract so i dont think he can be traded until december even if we wanted too...

Duck34234 · 07-14-2008, 07:11 PM

JJ Redick for Javaris straight up would be an equal trade off, in my opinion. Neither have really shown what they can do in the pros. I'd really like to see Keith Bogans + 2nd rounder for Javaris though. Placing Crittenton in the backcourt would be ideal for Redick.

As a long time Magic fan, I'd LOVE to see D. Armstrong back in a Magic uni. That'd be great.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 07-14-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck34234

JJ Redick for Javaris straight up would be an equal trade off, in my opinion.

Crittenton's 20 years old and got dealt midseason last year. Redick was a college senior who's career scoring average is lower than Crittenton's.

If Magic fans are expecting a team to give up more than a second rounder for Redick, they're going to be bitterly disappointed.

Duck34234 · 07-14-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinco de Mayo

Crittenton's 20 years old and got dealt midseason last year. Redick was a college senior who's career scoring average is lower than Crittenton's.

If Magic fans are expecting a team to give up more than a second rounder for Redick, they're going to be bitterly disappointed.

As a fan of the Lakers, Magic, and Duke basketball, I can honestly attest to the fact that I've seen both players play. I understand JJ's skills much more than you do, and would appreciate it if you weren't so arrogant. Yeah Javaris has potential, but winning teams care a lot more about skills. I realize that as a grizzlies fan, your organization doesn't really understand that experience.

I hope that Darko Milicic can some day bring you to the promised land.

Best regards,

**Cinco de Mayo** · 07-14-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck34234

As a fan of the Lakers, Magic, and Duke basketball, I can honestly attest to the fact that I've seen both players play. I understand JJ's skills much more than you do, and would appreciate it if you weren't so arrogant. Yeah Javaris has potential, but winning teams care a lot more about skills. I realize that as a grizzlies fan, your organization doesn't really understand that experience.

This is the NBA. 20-year-olds with potential don't get traded for 24-year-old scrubs.

Understand that.

What are Redick's skills exactly? He can kinda shoot when someone creates space for him? Awesome.

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I hope that Darko Milicic can some day bring you to the promised land.

Best regards,

Nice attempt at baiting. Did Pistons fans tell you the same thing when Orlando gift-wrapped a first-round pick for Milicic and got nothing out of it? Winning organization indeed.

**Blue Magic** · 07-14-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinco de Mayo

Crittenton's 20 years old and got dealt midseason last year. Redick was a college senior who's career scoring average is lower than Crittenton's.

If Magic fans are expecting a team to give up more than a second rounder for Redick, they're going to be bitterly disappointed.

Yeah, I agree. JJ for Critt, straight up, would just be highway robbery.......We will have to at least throw them a pick or two.

......A guy claiming to be "in the know" on another magic site posted this earlier today.....

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Guys, just got off the phone with Denton. I've got some more news.

1.) Crittenton's agent(Wallace Prather) is based in Georgia. He is kind of an understudy to Aaron Goodwin who just so happens to be Dwight Howard's agent.

2.) Denton said he couldn't gaurantee it but he thought the deal had a good chance of going down with the Magic only giving up a couple of 2nd round picks.

3.) John said he thought finality on this deal could happen within the next 2 or 3 days if it indeed does happen and it felt like it had a good chance of going down.
4.) John felt bad for Dooling.

5.) I asked him about J.J. Redick and some of the rumors that had been flying around here about him today. He said he had heard similar stuff and that he would check it out for me.

Bogan's and two 2nd's 4 Critt would be a damn good bargain imo.

**Damian Necronamous** · 07-14-2008, 08:04 PM

Hey guys, we had Crittenton for half a season in Los Angeles and none of us liked to see him go. Obviously, we were ecstatic to get Gasol, but we would have loved to get Javaris back.

He was a high-light machine and really does have the potential to be explosive on the offensive end. He's very smooth with the ball and his jump shot is silky smooth. He's going to be a good PG in the NBA, maybe not a very good one, but certainly better than Keyon Dooling.

This would be a steal of a trade for Orlando. Hope and pray that it happens.

**Cinco de Mayo** · 07-14-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Magic

Yeah, I agree. JJ for Critt, straight up, would just be highway robbery.......We will have to at least throw them a pick or two.

......A guy claiming to be "in the know" on another magic site posted this earlier today.....

Without being too much of a buzzkill, I wouldn't trust that information. Or, to be more specific, I wouldn't read too much into the optimism.

deanwoof · 07-14-2008, 08:20 PM

Keyon Dooling is gonna go the DeShawn Stevenson route...

**Blue Magic** · 07-14-2008, 08:21 PM

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Without being too much of a buzzkill, I wouldn't trust that information. Or, to be more specific, I wouldn't read too much into the optimism.

Yeah, i know nothing is official yet but I think it is pretty clear that the two teams are having some serious discusion about "something"......If Otis can pull a rabbit out of a hat and somehow get Crittenton 4 Bogans and whatever, that would just be awsome..... Like urself tho, i wont beleive it 'til I actually see Critt smiling and holding up a magic uni.

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