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07-14-2003, 10:45 PM
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Re: Gooden a no-no at SF
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Hey as a Drew Gooden fan moving him to SF is a mistake, he has a nice thing going and excelled in Orlando(not the east in general), b/c they played him at PF. MEM played him at SF and started to forget about him as the season went on. In Orlando he got a chance to play consistent minutes and flourished. Howard is coming to this team so he needs to make the adjustment and play C. In the east he would get by with this and have Gaines/Giricek/Tmac filling up the 1/2/3. Maybe put gooden defensively at the C if howard cant handle it.
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THAT would be ideal and then if they can still sign Kemp & a point guard that is not Vaughn or Armstrong......maybe Boykins - they would have a decent chance at that 4th seed!
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07-14-2003, 10:52 PM
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With Gooden improving expect Orlando to be a contender next year.
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07-14-2003, 10:53 PM
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Getting to the 4th seed its not much of a matter........getting out of the first round does matter.........I just hope they do better thna last year and hopefully Gooden wont play the SF..........
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07-15-2003, 03:49 AM
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Getting to the 4th seed its not much of a matter........getting out of the first round does matter.........I just hope they do better thna last year and hopefully Gooden wont play the SF..........
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I can't see the magic NOT making it out of the first round next season unless there is some injuries..magic have a better team and should have no excuse of not making it out of round 1 
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07-15-2003, 06:15 AM
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Come on... Mavs would do that trade in a New York minute. Not only was Gooden only half-way through his rookie season, but he wasn't getting a lot of PT. When he came to Orlando, he got the start and basically all the PT he could handle... that is why he started to shine, not just because he moved East.
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That's true his minutes did improve his stats, and Dallas does need a bigman however, Nick is a major reason why Dallas is as good as they are. He may be there most clutch performer, he's a vet who gives them firepower off the bench. He's the type of player that can give you 40 of the bench in the playoffs!, 40 of the bench!. That's incredible. I can't see Dallas giving up Nick and another player for a second year Drew Gooden. Definately not in a NY minute. 
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07-15-2003, 08:25 AM
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Man, Gabriel really screwed the Magic up didn't he? He did a great job accumulating cap space but after he traded Grant Hill for Chucky Atkins and Ben Wallace everything started to go down hill. Hill's injury status and Miller's trade have left them without a 3 and they've got no one on the roster who's going to play it. TMac can play the 3 but then they have no 2. What they need is for a guy like Keith Bogans to emerge so that they can move TMac to SF and keep Gooden at PF. Then who plays C? I don't know if Howard can play C. Gooden can't play C either. They need a guy like Steven Hunter to step up. However, if he start then where does Howard play. I'm glad I don't have to sort that mess out.
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07-15-2003, 08:43 AM
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If Tracy has to bump up Giricek should be able to fill the 2 guard void. He isn't your typical second year guy(26 years old) having played pro ball in Crotia. Between Bogans and Gaines one will emerge as a good role player, if not both.
At center, the Magic dont have anyone outstanding or even anyone who's untouchable but Delclerq, Burke, and Hunter are all serviceable, plus playing in the East not having a big doesn't really hurt it only helps. Not only that but the East in small. I would be surprise to see Gooden and Howard in the game at the same time on opposite sides of the block.
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07-15-2003, 10:09 AM
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Man, Gabriel really screwed the Magic up didn't he? He did a great job accumulating cap space but after he traded Grant Hill for Chucky Atkins and Ben Wallace everything started to go down hill. Hill's injury status and Miller's trade have left them without a 3 and they've got no one on the roster who's going to play it. TMac can play the 3 but then they have no 2. What they need is for a guy like Keith Bogans to emerge so that they can move TMac to SF and keep Gooden at PF. Then who plays C? I don't know if Howard can play C. Gooden can't play C either. They need a guy like Steven Hunter to step up. However, if he start then where does Howard play. I'm glad I don't have to sort that mess out.
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Gabriel didn't screw anything up. You can't blame Gabe for Grant Hill's re-occuring injuries. If Hill had ended up healthy, things would be a whole different story.
Howard and Gooden will play PF/C, and in the East, that is pretty much fine. Wallace plays C at 6'6", and even with Zo back, he is only 6'9".
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07-15-2003, 10:32 AM
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Howard and Gooden will play PF/C, and in the East, that is pretty much fine. Wallace plays C at 6'6", and even with Zo back, he is only 6'9".
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I agree that Howard/Gooden will play PF/C, but it has nothing to do with Ben and Zo. Those two split four DPOY awards between them. They play down low because they are a force, their defensive equiped! Juwan will play down low by default.
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