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**Slasher** · 07-28-2003, 10:07 AM

Yup the lineup would be cool

yangsta · 07-28-2003, 03:09 PM

Wow..started posted this a while back.. didn't realize that it was still in existence... what I did realize is that not many Magic fans are on the forums..

No one can say whether KG will end up in Orlando or not, but the main arguments that he could are:

1) David Stern would love it.... imagine a finals, KG/TMAC/Gooden/Howard vs. Kobe/Shaq/GP/Malone... the NBA finals would be the most watched since the bulls... which means more money in D. Stiddy's pockets..

2) As a Portland fan, I don't believe that stockpiling talent works. Cassell, Spree, Wally, Kani ... are all known to have team cancerlike symptoms...Troy Hudson wants more minutes instead of less because he did so well in playoffs last season.. if they ever even start losing 3 or 4 games in a row... stars begin pointing fingers.. downward spiral begins.. first round elimination possible...

3) Teams with 2 superstars have won most of the past championships. mj/pip, kobe/shaq, magic/worthy, bird/mchale, Duncan/Admiral, Hakeem/Clyde.... There's no reason that KG/Tmac would fail... both have traditionally been good teammates.. both want a ring badly.. both are the best in the league at their position. With shaq getting old, these are 2 out of the top 3 players in the league (may be a downhill season for kobe so he's not considere).

4) there's no reason that KG wouldn't come.. I don't get how anyone can be so completely sure that he's not coming.

07-28-2003, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by tmacistight!
Ok, maybe the twolves are better than the Magic now. But if he did come to orlando, there is no way the wolves are better than the Magic. A lineup of Gooden, Howard, Garnett, Tmac, and Gaines (2004-2005) is better than any lineup the twolves have now. It is very comparable to Shaq and Kobe.

master of the obvious here.
of course an orlando team with kg is better than a minny team wihtout kg. the point is that minny has a better supporting cast than orlando.

and don't compare shaq/kobe to a would-ve kg/tmac. kg's game is not anywhere close to shaq's.

tmacistight · 07-29-2003, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by trick!

master of the obvious here.
of course an orlando team with kg is better than a minny team wihtout kg. the point is that minny has a better supporting cast than orlando.

and don't compare shaq/kobe to a would-ve kg/tmac. kg's game is not anywhere close to shaq's.

My point was that Slasher kept on comparing how the twolves were better than the Magic, but the argument was what would happen if KG came to Orlando. Slasher was trying to say why KG would come to Orlando if he already has a better team in Minnesota, but if he came the Magic automatically become a better team than the Twolves (with KG).

07-29-2003, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by tmacistight!

My point was that Slasher kept on comparing how the twolves were better than the Magic, but the argument was what would happen if KG came to Orlando. Slasher was trying to say why KG would come to Orlando if he already has a better team in Minnesota, but if he came the Magic automatically become a better team than the Twolves (with KG).

actually, his main point was that minny has a better supporting cast than the magic.

**Slasher** · 07-29-2003, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by trick!

actually, his main point was that minny has a better supporting cast than the magic.

Geezers thank you... sometimes you Magic fans are hard to get to you.....................

**JNice** · 07-29-2003, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by trick!

actually, his main point was that minny has a better supporting cast than the magic.

They do right now, yes. But Minny doesn't have anyone close to the level of Tmac. And the NBA has turned into a two-star team league. And right now, Orlando supporting cast is not as good as Minny's, but they are young and could easily be better, if not much better, in a year or two. Giricek is solid. Gooden is a probably future star. Bogans will be a great bench player. Gaines should be solid at PG, if not great. Howard is consistent and strong. And I would expect either Hunter or Pachulia to eventually blossom at C.

**Slasher** · 07-29-2003, 08:06 PM

Yea Gordan is tha man in the Magicland

07-29-2003, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by Dee Bo!

They do right now, yes. But Minny doesn't have anyone close to the level of Tmac. And the NBA has turned into a two-star team league. And right now, Orlando supporting cast is not as good as Minny's, but they are young and could easily be better, if not much better, in a year or two. Giricek is solid. Gooden is a probably future star. Bogans will be a great bench player. Gaines should be solid at PG, if not great. Howard is consistent and strong. And I would expect either Hunter or Pachulia to eventually blossom at C.

Giricek is average at best
Gooden can be an all-star, but i don't know bout superstar
Bogans has not played one game in the NBA
Gaines has not played one game in the NBA
Howard is consistent
Hunter is injury prone
Pachulia has not played one game in the NBA

i don't see how quite yet you can be so confident in this game when Gooden is the only one with promise while 3 others have not played one game in the NBA.

O-Town Playa · 07-29-2003, 11:25 PM

You guys can keep arguing, but the fact of the matter is, if you cloned KG, put him on the Magic, and had the T-Wolves and Magic face each other in a series, the Magic would sweep. T-Mac makes all the difference. Arguing who has the better supporting cast is pointless.

07-30-2003, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by O-Town Playa!
You guys can keep arguing, but the fact of the matter is, if you cloned KG, put him on the Magic, and had the T-Wolves and Magic face each other in a series, the Magic would sweep. T-Mac makes all the difference. Arguing who has the better supporting cast is pointless.

let's see:
PG: Cassell vs Gaines gee, i wonder
SG: TMac vs Spree TMac
SF: Wally vs Gordan gee, i wonder
C: Kandiman vs whomever Magic have gee, i wonder

dude you are such a biased fan towards the Magic.

tmacistight · 07-30-2003, 05:43 AM

How is he being biased? He is saying that Magic with KG could beat the Twolves of today. I don't know why what was supposed to be a hypothetical scenario of KG coming to Orlando for Magic fans to ponder has become such a heated debate.

hobojoe · 07-30-2003, 06:03 AM

I hate when people go position by position and say one team is better than another. You can't just say, well, Minnesota is better at 3 positions, therefore they're better. T-Mac makes a huge difference, his matchup obviously counts for more than the other matchups. And funny how you completely leave Howard out of the mix. I agree, O-Town Playa is a biased Magic fan, and coming from another Magic fan, I recognize it, but going position by position is not a fair comparison.

c_dog · 07-30-2003, 07:34 AM

The magic probably lost to the hawks in every position except at SG and look who had a better record last season?

PG:Vaugh vs. Terry - Terry
SG:TMAC vs. Ricky Davis - TMac
SF:Mike Miller vs. Robinson - Robinson
PF:Pat Garrity vs. Reef - Reef
C:Kemp vs. Ratliff - Ratliff

just cuz one team wins at more positions doesn't mean anything...

hobojoe · 07-30-2003, 07:40 AM

exactly, even if you compare them after the trade....

Vaughn vs. Terry=ATL
T-Mac vs. Dion Glover(Ricky Davis???)=ORL
Giricek vs. Big Puppy=ATL
Gooden vs. Shareef=ATL
DeClerq vs. Ratliff=ATL

Get the point??

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