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O-Town Playa · 07-30-2003, 07:47 AM

Comparing by position is pointless, but if you wanna play that game, I'll bite. Considering my hypothetical situation stated above:

PG: Cassell vs Gaines - Obvious T-Wolves advantage
SG: TMac vs Spreewell - BIG a$$ Magic advantage
SF: Wally vs Giricek - ... pretty much the same. Too bad Hill isn't healthy, because if he was I would be able to just stop here...
PF: Wouldn't matter if they both have KG
C: Kandiman vs Howard - Howard is the vet and puts up better stats, he wins, sorry. Kandi = bust.

So what were you saying?

You could switch KG from PF to center for the Magic and they'd still win. Gooden would be at a big disadvantage against KG but he's tenacious enough to give hime some hell and work the boards even though he wouldn't score much. And Kandi wouldn't stand a chance aganst KG.

So... yeah. And there was NOTHING biased there!

07-30-2003, 09:17 AM

Wally >>>>> Giricek, i can't believe you would actually think they're equal

Kandi > Howard. ask any person to see who would they rather have, Kandi or Howard.

07-30-2003, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by hobojoe45555!
I hate when people go position by position and say one team is better than another. You can't just say, well, Minnesota is better at 3 positions, therefore they're better. T-Mac makes a huge difference, his matchup obviously counts for more than the other matchups. And funny how you completely leave Howard out of the mix. I agree, O-Town Playa is a biased Magic fan, and coming from another Magic fan, I recognize it, but going position by position is not a fair comparison.

i'm comparing position by position to get the point that TWolves have a better supporting cast than the Magic.

O-Town Playa · 07-30-2003, 03:59 PM

That's the problem... THEY DON'T.

Wally is NOT better than Giricek. Kandi is FAR from being even as good as Howard. KANDI SUCKS.

Someone here is obviously a T-Wolves fan.

07-30-2003, 04:20 PM

you gotta be kidding me.

Wally is NOT better than Giricek?

Wally is an all star. Giricek has still not proven he can be more than an average player. if Gooden wasn't part of that deal, Magic would never have sent Miller away.
and have you forgotten that Kandiman was one of the league's premiere center a couple years back? he was just held back this year cuz the entire clippers team didn't play as a unit as a result of Dre Miller's poor job at the PG.

ask anyone on these boards:
Kandi or Howard?
Wally or Giricek?
and watch the response you'll get from them.

btw, i'm a raps fan first. i just happen to be a fan of all other teams second. (except Lakers

)

**JNice** · 07-30-2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by trick!

Giricek is average at best
Gooden can be an all-star, but i don't know bout superstar
Bogans has not played one game in the NBA
Gaines has not played one game in the NBA
Howard is consistent
Hunter is injury prone
Pachulia has not played one game in the NBA

i don't see how quite yet you can be so confident in this game when Gooden is the only one with promise while 3 others have not played one game in the NBA.

Excellent analysis. Way to be completely objective. It is funny, you disagree and see everything in the negative ... I don't disagree and choose to see the positive.

So overall, who really cares.

Think what you want and believe you are 100% right. I don't care. I think Orlando with KG could be just as good or better than Minny with KG. No other duo except Shaq and Kobe could even come close to touching those two together ... and if Shaq isnt in shape, they would even be better than the Lakers tandem.

**JNice** · 07-30-2003, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by trick!

and have you forgotten that Kandiman was one of the league's premiere center a couple years back?

When the hell was Olowokandi one of the league's premiere centers? Yeah, right. That is why Brad Miller is getting 10 million a year and Kandi-man was having trouble scoring a contract at the mid-level exception .. cause Andre Miller was holding him back .. uh-huh.

Captain Obvious · 07-30-2003, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by trick!
ask anyone on these boards:
Kandi or Howard?
Wally or Giricek?
and watch the response you'll get from them.

Most people would say Howard and Wally. Wally is better than Giricek, I'll give you that. However, Giricek was just a rookie, expect bigger things this year.

Most people on this board would also say Howard is better than Kandi. If I posted that question the first 10 responses would be from Clipper fans slamming Kandi like they have done in other threads. Howard is the better player, it's just that simple. Check the stats. The only way Kandi is picked ahead of Howard is since he is bigger and younger, but these things don't make him a better player.

hobojoe · 07-31-2003, 07:44 AM

And again, you CAN NOT compare supporting casts position by position. That's ridiculous, it just doesnt work like that. Look at my comparison between the Magic and Hawks of last year....

Vaughn vs. Terry=ATL
T-Mac vs. Dion Glover=ORL
Giricek vs. Big Puppy=ATL
Gooden vs. Shareef=ATL
DeClerq vs. Ratliff=ATL

But T-Mac makes such a huge difference, thats why the Magic were better than the Hawks.

Reece Gaines · 07-31-2003, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by trick!
Wally >>>>> Giricek, i can't believe you would actually think they're equal

Kandi > Howard. ask any person to see who would they rather have, Kandi or Howard.

Wally might be better then Giricek but Kandi ain't better then howard

Sir Magic Boi · 08-06-2003, 03:51 PM

Word on the street is that Garnett is going to be a FA next year. Good, so during the offseason the magics can nogiate if possible and sign him. And the dynasty is ours.

Tracy Mcgrady and Kevin Garnett.

Kobe and Shaq is getting to old.

The MAgiC · 08-06-2003, 04:34 PM

Ever heard of a little thing called money?

We don't have it. But of course the need to spam overrode the ability to think about that...

**Crossword** · 08-06-2003, 08:20 PM

KG isn't coming to Orlando because the T'Wolves have his Bird rights... therefore they can pay him as mush as they want, and he can get the most money from them anyway. He'll be making $28 million this season... so the base of the new contract would probably be around $17-20 million. NO WAY is he going to Orlando for half the amount he'd make staying in Minnesota.

trick · 08-07-2003, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Budweiser_Boy!
KG isn't coming to Orlando because the T'Wolves have his Bird rights... therefore they can pay him as mush as they want, and he can get the most money from them anyway. He'll be making $28 million this season... so the base of the new contract would probably be around $17-20 million. NO WAY is he going to Orlando for half the amount he'd make staying in Minnesota.

there's really no point of making sense of the sensaton. they'll reply with, "If KG were in the East, he'd go to the Finals for sure", and we'll reply with "whomever wins the West will win the title, so the true test will lie in the West" blah blah blah.

just let em dream.

yangsta · 08-07-2003, 09:39 AM

In the discussion regarding who has better support, Twolves or Magic.... probably Twolves.... but if KG is in Orlando, he has Tmac as support, and you can't get better than that. 2 superstars with a team of role players has been the best combination for the past two decades...... Giricek is a very good role player.... Hopefully reece gainse pans out and becomes a good, solid PG. Gooden, would be the teams primary inside game... this team will end up in the finals.... and this team would also be better than any team in the West. If Hill retires now, would he be off the books by next season???

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