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11-28-2003, 11:29 AM
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Ultimate Magic Fan
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Magic-Jazz Trade
How about this trade:
Orlando Trades:
Juwan Howard
Gordan Giricek
Andrew DeClercq
Utah Trades:
Andrei Kirilenko
Greg Ostertag
New Orlando Lineup:
Lue
T-Mac
Kirilenko
Gooden
Ostertag/Hunter
New Utah Lineup:
Arroyo
Giricek
Harpring
Howard
DeClercq/Borchardt
Why Orlando does it:
Signing Howard was a mistake, and they desperately need defense and outside shooting. Kirilenko gives them both. Ostertag is a huge expiring contract that makes Orlando a player in the free agency next year.
Why Utah does it:
It's hard to part with rising star Kirilenko, but at the same time he plays the same position as their best player, Harpring. Howard is a true power forward and he can provide veteran leadership on a young team. Giricek is a significant upgrade over Stevenson. They also get rid of Ostertag which gives them an opportunity to develop their young bigs Collins and Borchardt with a vet (DeClercq) to help them out. Ostertag's huge expiring contract is not as big an advantage to the Jazz because they are way under the cap anyway.
I know this trade can't happen for a while (Howard was recently signed) but other than that what do you guys think? If Jazz fans don't want to give up Kirilenko then I could do a variation of this trade with Harpring in his place.
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11-28-2003, 11:30 AM
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no way for Utah. Kirilino is turning into an all star
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11-28-2003, 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by <b>wadecaroneddie</b>!
no way for Utah. Kirilino is turning into an all star
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not an all star in the West, but if he were in the East, 
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11-28-2003, 03:07 PM
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I like this trade idea from the Magic's point of view a lot, and I could see why Utah would do it. Good idea MagicStick 
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11-28-2003, 03:10 PM
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Utah wouldn't do that. Look at Kirilenko's contract. He is a valuable asset and the Jazz are winning games with their formula. They are not going to even consider such a bad trade.
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11-28-2003, 03:50 PM
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This more like it:
Orlando trades: PF Juwan Howard (13.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 1.9 apg in 33.5 minutes)
C Andrew DeClercq (3.2 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.5 apg in 12.5 minutes)
SG Gordan Giricek (11.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.7 apg in 29.3 minutes)
Orlando receives: SF Matt Harpring (16.4 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.1 minutes)
C Keon Clark (2.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.5 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -9.7 ppg, -1.0 rpg, and -1.6 apg.
Utah trades: SF Matt Harpring (16.4 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.1 minutes)
C Keon Clark (2.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.5 minutes)
Utah receives: PF Juwan Howard (13.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 1.9 apg in 15 games)
C Andrew DeClercq (3.2 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13 games)
SG Gordan Giricek (11.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.7 apg in 7 games)
Change in team outlook: +9.7 ppg, +1.0 rpg, and +1.6 apg.
TRADE ACCEPTED
Orlando:
Lue
T-Mac
Harpring
Gooden
Clark
Utah:
Arroyo
Giricek
Kirilenko
Howard
Ostertag
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