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Here is a link to my annual draft information for the 2005 NFL draft. The weakest part is the mock, I did not spend a ton of time on that because honestly it changes so much and is really a crap shoot, and predicting a mock draft is pointless. The real thing is predicting where a player will go in the draft.

In the thread I have numerous lists and rankings by position and by skill level. I also have a look ahead to the 2006 NFL draft.

The 2005 draft does not have a ton of stars, but as always there is some talent and a team can really improve itself it they do their job. There is not one amazing player in the draft like a Michael Vick, so having the #1 pick is not as important as in years past.
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Re: NFL Draft

NFL draft lists, minus the analysis which can be seen on the original thread.



QB
1) Aaron Rogers Cal
2) Alex Smith Utah
3) Charlie Frye Akron
4) Andrew Walter ASU
5) Dan Orlovsky UCONN
6) Jason Campbell Auburn
7) David Greene Georgia
8) Kyle Orton Purdue
9) Derek Anderson Oregon State
10) Adrian McPherson AFL
11) Gino Guidugli Cincinnati
12) Stefan LeFors Louisville
13) Brock Berlin Miami FL
14) Jason White OU
15) Bryan Randall VaTech
16) Jon Beutjer Illinois
17) Timmy Chang Hawaii
18) Matt Jones Arkansas
19) Danny Wimprine Memphis
20) Chris Rix FSU

Stars: 3
Quality players: 7



RB

1) Carnell Williams Auburn
2) Ronnie Brown Auburn
3) Cedric Benson Texas
4) JJ Arrington Cal
5) Marion Barber Minnesota
6) Ciatrick Fason Florida
7) Eric Shelton Lousiville
8) Vernand Morency Oklahoma State
9) TA McClendon NC State
10) Frank Gore Miami FL
11) Darren Sproles K State
12) Kay Jay Harris WV
13) Walter Reyes Syracuse
14) Brandon Jacobs Southern Illinois
15) Maurice Clarett NA Ohio State
16) Cedrick Houston Tennessee
17) Anthony Davis Wisconsin
18) Alvin Pearman Virginia
19) Noah Herron Northwestern
20) Ryan Grant Notre Dame

Stars: 5
Quality players: 15



WR
1) Braylon Edwards Michigan
2) Mike Williams NA USC
3) Troy Williamson SC
4) Terrence Murphy Texas A&M
5) Mark Clayton OU
6) Chris Henry WV
7) Fred Gibson Georiga
8) Courtney Roby Indiana
9) Craig Bragg UCLA
10) Reggie Brown Georgia
11) Jerome Mathis Hampton
12) Craphonso Thorpe FSU
13) Roscoe Parrish Miami FL
14) Airese Currie Clemson
15) Josh Davis Marshall
16) Mark Bradley OU
17) Tab Perry UCLA
18) Chase Lyman Cal
19) Charles Frederick Washington
20) Lance Moore Toledo
21) Geoff McArthur Cal

Stars: 3
Quality players:8


OG/C
1) Elton Brown Virginia
2) Richie Incognito NA
3) David Bass Michigan
4) Ben Wilkerson LSU
5) CJ Brooks Maryland

Stars: 2
Quality players: 6



OT
1) Alex Barron FSU
2) Jammal Brown OU
3) Adam Terry Syracuse
4) Khalif Barnes Washington
5) Wesley Britt Bama
6) Michael Munoz Tennessee
7) Logan Mankins Fresno State
8) David Stewart Miss State
9) Anthony Alabi TCU
10) Rob Pettiti Pitt
11) Adam Snyder Oregon
12) Wes Sims OU
13) Rian Melander Minnesota
14) Ray Willis FSU

Stars: 6
Quality players: 11



TE
1) Heath Miller Virginia
2) Kevin Everett Miami FL
3) Alex Smith Stanford
4) Matt Jones Arkansas
5) Eric Knott Michigan State
6) Bo Scafie Texas
7) Jason Randall Michigan State
8) Victor Sesay Missouri
9) Ben Hall Clemson

Stars: 3
Quality players: 5



DT
1) Shaun Cody USC
2) Anttaj Hawthorne Wisconsin
3) Mike Patterson USC
4) Travis Johnson FSU
5) Jonathan Babineaux Iowa
6) Anthony Bryant Bama
7) Albert Means Memphis
8) Jason Jefferson Wisconsin
9) Marcus Jasmin Texas A&M
10) Kevin Vickerson Michigan State
11) Eric Coleman Clemson
12) Jermaine Berry K State

Stars: 3
Quality players: 7



DE
1) Erasmus James Wisconsin
2) David Pollack Georiga
3) Justin Tuck Notre Dame
4) Marcus Spears LSU
5) Matt Roth Iowa
6) Dan Cody OU
7) Bill Swancutt Oregon State
8) Jonathan Goddard Marshall
9) Vincent Burns Kentucky
10) Jim Davis VaTech
11) Simon Fraser Ohio State
12) Clifford Dukes Michigan State

Stars: 6
Quality players: 15




ILB
1) Channing Crowder Florida
2) Barrett Ruud Nebraska
3) Lofa Tatupu USC
4) Odell Thurman Georiga
5) Alfred Fincher UCONN
6) Kirk Morrison SDSU
7) Boomer Grigsby Illinois State
8) Lionel Turner LSU
9) Mike Goolsby Notre Dame
10) Lance Mitchell OU
11) James Kinney Missouri
12) Leroy Hill Clemson
13) Adam Lenhortt WV

Stars: 4
Quality players: 10





OLB
1) Derrick Johnson Texas
2) Daryl Blackstock Virginia
3) Kevin Burnett Tennesee
4) Michael Boley Southern Mississippi
5) Matt Grootegooed USC
6) Roger McIntosh Miami FL
7) Patrick Thomas NC State
8) Ryan Claridge UNLV
9) Ronald Stanely Michigan State
10) Cornelius Wortham Bama
11) Jonathan Welsh Wisconsin
12) Derek Curry Notre Dame

Stars: 3
Quality players: 8



CB
1) Antrel Rolle Miami FL
2) Adam Jones WV
3) Carlos Rogers Auburn
4) Justin Miller Clemson
5) Marlin Jackson Michigan
6) Brandon Browner Oregon State
7) Fabian Washington Nebraska
8) Corey Webster LSU
9) Eric Green VaTech
10) Antonio Perkins OU
11) Travis Daniels LSU
12) Bryant McFadden FSU
13) Kelvin Hayden Illinois
14) Scott Starks Wisconsin
15) Dominique Foxworth Maryland
16) Cedrick Williams K State
17) Aric Williams Oregon State
18) Antwaun Rogers Purdue
19) Chris McKenzie ASU
20) Lamont Reid NC State
21) Dustin Fox Ohio State
22) Markus Curry Michigan
23) Brandon Shelby OU

Stars: 6
Quality players: 20



FS
1) Thomas Davis Georiga
2) Vincent Fuller VaTech
3) Josh Bullocks Nebraska
4) Brodney Pool OU
5) Gerald Sensabaugh UNC
6) Ben Emanuel UCLA
7) Jason Harmon Michigan State
8) Jim Leonhard Wisconsin
9) Sean Considine Iowa
10) Mitch Meeuwsen Oregon State
11) BJ Ward FSU

Stars: 4
Quality players: 10




SS
1) Ernest Shazor Michigan
2) Jamaal Brimmer UNLV
3) Donte Nicholson OU
4) Andre Maddox NC State
5) Junior Rosegreen Auburn
6) Matt Grootegooed USC
7) James Sanders Fresno State
8) Diamond Ferri Syracuse
9) Jerome Carter FSU
10) Mike Williams Kentucky

Stars: 4
Quality players: 10







Sleepers:
QB: Derek Anderson, Gino Guidugli, Adrian McPherson, Jon Beutjer.

RB: Frank Gore, Maurice Clarett, Alvin Pearman, Kay Jay Harris, Dominique Dorsey

WR: Courtney Roby, Craphonso Thorpe, Airese Currie, Tab Perry, OJ Small, Chauncey Stovall, Josh Davis.

OT: David Stewart, Adam Snyder, Jonathan Colon, Rian Melander.

TE: Victor Sesay, Ben Hall, Jason Randall.

DT: Albert Means, Marcus Jasmin, Eric Coleman, Anthony Bryant.

DE: Vincent Burns, Jim Davis, Will Thompson.

ILB: Lionel Turner, James Kinney, Adam Lenhortt

OLB: Derek Wake, Patrick Thomas, Marques Harris, Derek Curry.

CB: Aric Williams, Ellis Hobbs, Travis Daniels, Lamont Reid, Roderick Maples.

FS: Jason Harmon, Mitch Meeuwsen, BJ Ward

SS: Diamond Ferri, Riccardo Stewart, Mike Williams.


Players with certain positional skills, for example a RB with good hands or a pass rushing LB, or players that can play more than one position possibly at the next level.

QB: Rasheed Marshall, Matt Jones.

RB: Darren Sproles, Alvin Pearman, DeAndra Cobb, Dominique Dorsey.

WR: Craig Bragg, Charles Frederick.

DE: Erasmus James, Justin Tuck, Shawne Merriman, Jonathan Goddard, Bill Swancutt.

OLB: Daryl Blackstock, Matt Grootegooed, Derek Wake, Marques Harris.

CB: Brandon Browner, Corey Webster, Travis Daniels.

FS: Thomas Davis, Ben Emanuel.

SS: Junior Rosegreen, Ernest Shazor.
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Re: NFL Draft

Top prospects in college next year regardless of class.

Top prospects in college next year regardless of class. Yes there are some not on there, but guess what, probably have not seen them yet.

QB
Matt Leinart- USC
Drew Tate- Iowa
Bruce Gradkowski- Toledo
Chris Leak- UF
J. Zabransky- Boise State
Chad Henne- Michigan
Vincent Young- Texas
Erick Ainge- Tennessee
Brodie Croyle- BAMA
Brady Quinn- Notre Dame
D. Woods- Ok SU
Reggie McNeal- A&M
T. Palko- Pitt
Brad Smith- Missouri
J. Russell- LSU
Michael Robinson- PSU
Bret Schaeffer- NA
Bryan Cupito- Minnesota
T. Smith- OSU
K. Clemens- Oregon
C. Whitehurst- Clemson


RB
A. Peterson- OU
Reggie Bush- USC
Laurence Maroney- Minnesota
M. Hart- Michigan
LenDale White- USC
D. Rhodes- Syracuse
A. Broussard - LSU
W. Lundy- Virginia
Lorenzo Booker- FSU
DeShawn Wynn- UF
J. Addai- LSU
J. Caulcrick- MSU
B. Lenoard- Rutgers
Andre Callender- BC
G. Riggs- Tennessee
Dwayne Wright- Fresno State
D. Summers- SC


WR
D. Jarrett- USC
T. Ginn Jr- OSU
Vincent Young- Texas
E. Wheelwright- Minnesota
T. Watkins- BYU
C. Soloman- Iowa
Derek Hagan- ASU
L. Leggett- Miami
R. McKnight- Notre Dame
Steven Breaston- Michigan
Ryne Robinson- Miami OH
L. Sweed- Texas
Matt Trannon- MSU
S. Holmes- OSU
Jared Ellerson- Minnesota
Andre Caldwell- UF
D. Bowe- LSU
Brad Smith- Missouri
Martin Nance- Miami OH
Todd. Bythe- Iowa State
E. Rolle- Virginia Tech
K. Ingraham- Purdue
D. Aromashodu- Auburn
C. Jackson- UF
Maurice Stovall- Notre Dame
J. Avant- Michigan
D. Baker- UF
Ryan Moore- Miami
James Banks- Tennessee
Chris Hannon- Tennessee


TE
Matt Herian- Nebraska
M. Lewis- UCLA
Anthony Fasano- Notre Dame
D. Byrd- USC
B. Olsen- Miami
TJ Williams- NC State
L. Pope- GA
Tim Day- Oregon
Matt Spaeth- Minnesota
S. Chandler- Iowa
Jayson Swain- Tennessee
D. Jones- LSU
J. King- Va Tech
O. Daniels- Wisconsin
T. Massaquoi- Michigan
R. Hamby- OSU


OT/OG
D'Brickashaw Ferguson- Virginia
Eric Winston- Miami
M. McNeil- Auburn
Ryan Harris- Notre Dame
Scott- Texas
J. Levey- SC
M. Setterstrom- Minnesota
Blalock- Texas
Max Jean Giles- GA
R. Butler- Miami
Arron Sears- Tennessee
J. Ainslie- Minnesota


C
G. Eslinger- Minnesota
Mike Degory- Florida
Nick Mangold- OSU
Josh Beekman- BC


DE
Mathais Kiwaninka- BC
S. McGlover- Auburn
Mario Williams- NC State
Manny Lawson- NC State
T. Crowder- Texas
Brian Smith- Missouri
Baraka Atkins- Miami


DT
R. Wright- Texas
Ray McDonald- UF
R. Thomas- UF
Q. Pitcock- OSU
G. Watson- Michigan
O. Harris- Miami


ILB
Abdul Hodge- Iowa
B. Siler- UF
AJ Nicholson- FSU
Schlegel- OSU
B. Hoyte- Notre Dame
F. Roach- BAMA
D'Andrea- OSU


OLB
Ahmad Brooks- Virginia
AJ Hawk- OSU
Chad Greenway- Iowa
W. Williams- Miami
E. Sims- FSU
S. Havner- UCLA
D. Robinson- ASU
Kai Parham- Virginia
X. Adibi- Va Tech
L. Woodley- Michigan
Hall- Va Tech
Tulloch- NC State
T. Williams- Auburn
Everett- UF
B. Carpenter- OSU
P. Woods- Michigan
D. Sanders- Wisconsin
K. Simon- Tennessee
Burgess- Michigan


CB
D. Hester- Miami
J. Williams- Virginia Tech
W. Blackmon- BC
Antwan Allen- Iowa
Youboty- OSU
Antonio Cromartie- FSU
Jason Allen- Tennessee
Gordon- Kansas
L. Hall- Michigan
Webb- UF
K. Jennings- Miami
J. Backes- Northwestern
Jonathan Hefney- Tennessee


S
Darnell Bing- USC
J. Page- UCLA
K. Jackson- Florida
Nate Salley- OSU
P. Watkins- FSU
Dedrick Harringon- Missouri
LaRon Landry- LSU
D. Whitner- OSU
Jarvis Herring- UF
G. Threat- Miami
Will Herring- Auburn
C. Peprah- BAMA
Jaxson Appel- A&M
T. Everett- OSU

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Re: NFL Draft

Potential busts:

Alex Smith: He doesn't have a great arm and the offense he was apart of was very unorthodox, it was not a professional offense at all. What might bail Smith out is his athletic ability and escape ability as a QB. He could be a very good player, or he could turn out to be nothing special.

Kyle Orton: I don't know if any teams are high on him, but if they are they shouldn't be. He has a average arm at best, he is a sub par athlete and does not have that fire in the belly you want from a QB. His leadership qualities are a big question to me.

Cedric Benson: The kid could either be a very solid RB or he could be below average. He does not do anything amazing, he has been a consistent RB for 4 straight years at Texas but that doesn't mean he is a great RB. He is not very fast and he is not very quick as a runner. I like his versitility out of the backfield, but his lack of great athletic ability could hurt him at the next level.

Anthony Davis: He is a very skinny and thin RB. He is not very strong and he has a history of getting injured during the season. He has good speed but he does not break tackles that well and tends to shy away from contact. If he is picked high in the draft, that could be a mistake.

Braylon Edwards: The only thing that scares me about Edwards is that David Terrell was a great college WR just like Edwards, so maybe its the system at Michigan and not the WR. Another question mark for him is the fact he is not a great athlete, and he has attitude issues, he has made great progess in that area this year but why did it take him so long to make that progress? Did he have to get the #1 on his jersey to be a great Michigan WR?

Fred Gibson: It happened a long time ago, but the fact that he sold his championship ring on ebay raises hug flags in my mind about his character. He is a good athlete, tall kid and can run but he ridicilously underachieves on the football field. He had the potential to be a great WR, but I don't think he has the work ethic or character to be a great WR.

Travis Johnson: He could either be really good or really bad. The ironic thing about him is that I honestly did not notice him that much in college, he put up good statistics but during the game you never really noticed him. It also could be that the entire FSU defensive line underachieved, who knows, but I think Johnson is a questionable player, could be good but also could be bad.

Dan Cody: He is not a very physical player at all, he is a speed rusher totally and does not stop the run at all. He lacks strength but he makes up for it in quickness. There is also a tendency for OU players to be overrated, example being Everage, Calmus etc.

Marcus Spears: He has the potential to be a great player, but for some reason it doesn't seem likely he will do that. He seems to disappear in games, and he is a cross between a DT and a DE. It also doesn't help he had a average year, it he was more dominant his stock would be much higher. Regardless he is still a 1st round pick most likely for a 4/3 defensive team.

Justin Miller: He is a very good CB and will be a 1st round pick without question, but I think he lacks in true quickness, agility and toughness. He is not a great tackler and he does not make a lot of plays on the ball as he should. He has great speed, is a wonderful return man in college but his true CB skills are some what questionable.

Fabian Washington: I have mentioned him three times in this thread. If he never ran that great 40 at the combine he would not be talked about this much, but since he did he will probably be a 2nd or 3rd round pick just on his time in the 40. He was a solid CB for Nebraska but if he was as good as some people are saying, the Nebraska defense would have been a lot better than it was and he would have made a lot more plays on the field.

Antonio Perkins: I think he is very overrated as a CB, he is a return man that could maybe be a nickle back some day. I do not like CB skills and I think the only reason he will be drafted high is on his return ability not his ability at CB. He could be a good selection but don't expect him to be a all world CB.

Jim Leonhard: He is a great athlete for his size and had a wonderful college career, but he is to short to be a good safety in the NFL. Bob Sanders is a great safety because he can tackle, regardless of the fact he is short, Leonhard on the other hand is not a great tackler. He makes good plays on the ball, so I would imagine he might move to nickle back. He is a solid punt returner and that will help his stock as well, but as a true FS goes, I don't think he will be that effective.

Ernest Shazor: He could be a huge bust, some people are really high on him but I am not. He is a great hitter, makes big plays and physically he is strong and has a perfect frame. But the problem is the fact that he is slow and a poor coverage player. He gets out ran a lot in the defensive backfield and that is a problem. He might make up for his lack of speed with intelligence on the field and being in the right place at the right time, but if he doesn't he will struggle in the league.

Jamaal Brimmer: Brimmer's only problem is the fact he is not a very good athlete at all. At times he makes great plays on the field and other times he disappears. He has the potential to be a big play SS or FS but he will have to improve his work ethic and technique as a football player. I also hope he starts to play the game with more aggression and becomes a more assertive hitter as a safety.
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Re: NFL Draft

Best athletes by position:

QB
Alex Smith
Charlie Frye
Adrian McPherson
Matt Jones*
Bryan Randall
Rasheed Marshall


RB
Carnell Williams
Ronnie Brown
Eric Shelton
JJ Arrington
Brandon Jacobs

WR
Mark Clayton
Troy Williamson
Terrence Murphy
Roscoe Parrish
Craphonso Thorpe
Airese Currie


OL
Ben Wilkerson
Richie Incognito
CJ Brooks
Jammal Brown


TE
Heath Miller
Alex Smith
Kevin Everett
Matt Jones


DT
Shaun Cody
Mike Patterson
Jonathan Babineaux


DE
Justin Tuck
Erasmus James
Dan Cody
Bill Swancutt
Shawne Merriman
Jonathan Goddard


ILB
Lofa Tatupu
Channing Crowder
Odell Thurman
Robert McCune

OLB
Derrick Johnson
Daryl Blackstock
Roger McIntosh
Matt Grootegood


CB
Justin Miller
Antrel Rolle
Fabian Washington
Dustin Fox


FS
Thomas Davis
Vincent Fuller
Brodney Pool
Ben Emanuel

SS
Junior Rosegreen
Andre Maddox




The superior athletes:

Ronnie Brown
Carnell Williams
Jammal Brown
Heath Miller
Kevin Everett
Shaun Cody
Erasmus James
Justin Tuck
Derrick Johnson
Fabian Washington * (just because of his 40 time.)
Vincent Fuller
Thomas Davis
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Re: NFL Draft

Marquee players:

Ronnie Brown
Derrick Johnson
Carnell Williams
Aaron Rogers
Mike Williams
Antrel Rolle
Alex Smith
Erasmus James
Heath Miller
Thomas Davis
Shaun Cody
Elton Brown
Jammal Brown
Channing Crowder
David Pollack
David Baas




Players that did not have great success in college in terms of production or accomplishments, but could be true stars in the NFL. Players that might have only scratched the surface in college.

Andrew Walter
Ronnie Brown
Ciatrick Fason
Brandon Jacobs
Chris Henry
Kevin Everett
Eric Knott
Bo Scafie
Travis Johnson
Albert Means
Shawne Merriman
Lofa Tatupu
Marlin Jackson
Fabian Washington
Kelvin Hayden
Travis Daniels
Andre Maddox



Players stock that is down, as of now compared to what it could be, but could turn out to be solid NFL players.

Andrew Walter
Maurice Clarett
Craphonso Thorpe
Michael Munoz
Anthony Alabi
Eric Knott
Anthony Bryant
Ryan Riddle
Odell Thurman
Kirk Morrison
Michael Boley
Brandon Browner
Marlin Jackson
Corey Webster
Cedrick Williams
Jason Harmon
Jamaal Brimmer




The most competitive players in the NFL draft. And I believe, competitivness = success as a player because a player can have all the skills and athletic talent in the world, but if they do not work hard, compete and have a drive to win, all the talent in the world will not make them great.


QB
Alex Smith
Charlie Frye

RB
Carnell Williams
Marion Barber
JJ Arrington
Maurice Clarett

WR
Mike Williams
Terrence Murphy
Roscoe Parrish

OL
Richie Incognito
Elton Brown
Jammal Brown
David Baas
Wesley Britt
Logan Mankins


TE
Matt Jones
Kevin Everett


DT
Shaun Cody
Mike Patterson
Eric Coleman

DE
David Pollack
Matt Roth
Vincent Burns
Dan Cody
Marcus Spears
Joe Huckeba
Bill Swancutt

ILB
Channing Crowder
Barrett Ruud
Odell Thurman
Alfred Fincher


OLB
Derrick Johnson
Matt Grootegooed
Kevin Burnett
Roger McIntosh
Ronald Stanley


CB
Antrel Rolle
Carlos Rogers
Adam Jones
Marlin Jackson
Eric Green
Bryant McFadden
Scott Starks
Lamont Reid


FS
Thomas Davis
Vincent Fuller
Gerald Sensabaugh
Brodney Pool
Josh Bullocks
Jason Harmon


SS
Junior Rosegreen
Ernest Shazor
Mike Willilams
Jamaal Brimmer
Andre Maddox

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Re: NFL Draft

Considering 40 times are not always everything, I think toughness and strength also comes into play at the next level. Prime example is Bolden, a player that ran a terrible 40 but is physically strong and has had success at the next level because of it. Here is a list of the most physical football players in this years draft.

RB
Ronnie Brown
Eric Shelton
Cedric Benson
Marion Barber
Brandon Jacobs
Maurice Clarett
Frank Gore

WR
Mile Williams
Terrence Murphy
Roddy White
Mark Bradley
Tab Perry


OL
Elton Brown
David Baas
Richie Incognito
Logan Mankins
Wesley Britt
Jammal Brown



DT
Anttaj Hawthorne
Shaun Cody
Mike Patterson
Albert Means


DE
Matt Roth
Marcus Spears
Shawne Merriman
David Pollack
Joe Huckeba


ILB
Channing Crowder
Lofa Tatupu
Alfred Fincher
Barrett Ruud


OLB
Matt Grootegooed
Kevin Burnett
Joathan Pollard
Ronald Stanley


CB
Marlin Jackson
Antrel Rolle
Bryant McFadden
Travis Daniels


FS
Thomas Davis
Vincent Fuller
Brodney Pool
Gerald Sensabaugh
Sean Considine
Jason Harmon


SS
Ernest Shazor
Donte Nicholson
Andre Maddox
Junior Rosegreen





The biggest hitters on defense:

Derrick Johnson
Thomas Davis
Ernest Shazor
Gerald Sensabaugh
Channing Crowder
Marlin Jackson
Matt Roth
Erasmus James
Brodney Pool
Carlos Rogers
Andre Maddox
Antrel Rolle
Jamaal Brimmer
Shaun Cody
Matt Grootegooed
Lofa Tatupu
Barrett Ruud
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Who has the best hands in the draft:

RB
Alvin Pearman
Ronnie Brown
Maurice Clarett
TA McClendon
Cedric Benson
Frank Gore


WR
Braylon Edwards
Mike Williams
Courtney Roby
Mark Clayton
Terrence Murphy
Reggie Brown
Taylor Stubblefield
Josh Davis
Lance Moore


TE
Health Miller
Matt Jones
Alex Smith
Bo Scafie
Eric Knott


CB
Adam Jones
Antrel Rolle
Justin Miller
Corey Webster
Kelvin Hayden
Scott Starks
Bryant McFadden
Carlos Rogers
Dustin Fox



FS/SS
Vincent Fuller
Josh Bullocks
Junior Rosegreen
Jim Lenohard
Jamaal Brimmer









Best open field running in terms of making people miss, ala Barry Sanders.

QB
Rasheed Marshall
Adrian McPherson


RB
Carnell Williams
Darren Sproles
JJ Arrington
Vernand Morency
Anthony Davis



WR
Mark Clayton
Roscoe Parrish
Charles Frederick
Craig Bragg
Airese Currie


TE
Matt Jones


DE
David Pollack
Matt Roth
Jonathan Goddard
Bill Swancutt
Ryan Riddle


(less offense related mobility and agility)

ILB
Odell Thurman
Leroy Hill
Lofa Tatupu


OLB
Derrick Johnson
Daryl Blackstock
Roger McIntosh
Patrick Thomas
Jonathan Welsh


CB
Antonio Perkins
Justin Miller
Scott Starks
Antrel Rolle
Adam Jones
Aric Williams
Dustin Fox


SS/FS
Thomas Davis
Vincent Fuller
Jim Leonhard
Brodney Pool

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I think 5 years from now looking back, the best player from this draft will be Cadillac Williams.

Discuss.
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I think 5 years from now looking back, the best player from this draft will be Cadillac Williams.

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I think he will be the best RB. But the best player will be Derrick Johnson. He's going to be a Pro Bowler for a long time.
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Carnell Williams? Why because he is from the SEC?

Honestly there is a list of like 10 players that could be great in the future. Could be a OT, could be a WR, QB, RB, DE, FS, CB. There is to many to even attempt to say who will be the best.

I think just being good in the NFL is all you need to predict.


Reference my stars list to see how many good players and potential pro bowlers are at each position.
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SEC produces more NFL talent than any other conference. Just because I am a fan of a team that plays in the SEC, that means nothing. SEC produces great talent, no coincidence.
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Speaking of talent, how bout them Gamecocks Yeaaaaah, Steve is back, bye bye SEC's parody.

But I don't think there is a player that will be great right off the bat, there is no Sean Taylor or Mike Vick in this draft. However some sleepers could be great players, and I already listed those.
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Best WR prospect since Randy Moss.

The 2007 draft is going to own. Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson, wow. What a 1-2 punch.
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Top Players in the draft:


1) Mike Williams
2) Derrick Johnson
3) Ronnie Brown
4) Antrel Rolle
5) Aaron Rogers
6) Carnell Williams
7) Alex Smith
8) Troy Williamson
9) Braylon Edwards
10) Thomas Davis
11) Erasmus James
12) Jammal Brown





Rankings with projected round they will be drafted in.


QB
1) Aaron Rogers Cal (1)
2) Alex Smith Utah (1)
3) Charlie Frye Akron (1-2)
4) Andrew Walter ASU (1-2)
5) Dan Orlovsky UCONN (2-3)
6) Jason Campbell Auburn (2-3)
7) David Greene Georgia (3-4)
8) Kyle Orton Purdue (3-4)
9) Derek Anderson Oregon State (4-5)
10) Adrian McPherson AFL (3-5)
11) Gino Guidugli Cincinnati (5-6)
12) Stefan LeFors Louisville (3-4)
13) Brock Berlin Miami FL (4-6)
14) Jason White OU (4-6)
15) Bryan Randall VaTech (6-7)
16) Jon Beutjer Illinois (6-7)
17) Timmy Chang Hawaii (7)
18) Matt Jones Arkansas (NA QB/ 1-2 TE/WR)
19) Danny Wimprine Memphis (7)
20) Chris Rix FSU (6-7)

Stars: 3
Quality players: 7



RB

1) Carnell Williams Auburn (1)
2) Ronnie Brown Auburn (1)
3) Cedric Benson Texas (1)
4) JJ Arrington Cal (1-2)
5) Marion Barber Minnesota (2-4)
6) Ciatrick Fason Florida (2-4)
7) Eric Shelton Lousiville (2-3)
8) Vernand Morency Oklahoma State (2-3)
9) TA McClendon NC State (3-4)
10) Frank Gore Miami FL (3-5)
11) Darren Sproles K State (3-6)
12) Kay Jay Harris WV (4-5)
13) Walter Reyes Syracuse (5-6)
14) Brandon Jacobs Southern Illinois (3-4)
15) Maurice Clarett NA Ohio State (4-6)
16) Cedrick Houston Tennessee (5-6)
17) Anthony Davis Wisconsin (4-6)
18) Alvin Pearman Virginia (5-6)
19) Noah Herron Northwestern (6-7)
20) Ryan Grant Notre Dame (7)

Stars: 5
Quality players: 15




WR
1) Braylon Edwards Michigan (1)
2) Mike Williams NA USC (1)
3) Troy Williamson SC (1)
4) Terrence Murphy Texas A&M (1-2)
5) Mark Clayton OU (1)
6) Chris Henry WV (3-4)
7) Fred Gibson Georiga (3-5)
8) Courtney Roby Indiana (3-4)
9) Craig Bragg UCLA (4-5)
10) Reggie Brown Georgia (2-3)
11) Jerome Mathis Hampton (2-4)
12) Craphonso Thorpe FSU (3-5)
13) Roscoe Parrish Miami FL (3-4)
14) Airese Currie Clemson (5-7)
15) Josh Davis Marshall (5-7)
16) Mark Bradley OU (5-7)
17) Tab Perry UCLA (6-7)
18) Chase Lyman Cal (7)
19) Charles Frederick Washington (6-7)
20) Lance Moore Toledo (6-7)
21) Geoff McArthur Cal (6-7)

Stars: 3
Quality players:8




OG/C
1) Elton Brown Virginia (1)
2) Richie Incognito NA (1-2)
3) David Bass Michigan (1-2)
4) Ben Wilkerson LSU (2-3)
5) CJ Brooks Maryland (2-3)
6) Vince Carter OU (2-4)

Stars: 2
Quality players: 6



OT
1) Alex Barron FSU (1)
2) Jammal Brown OU (1)
3) Adam Terry Syracuse (2-3)
4) Khalif Barnes Washington (1-2)
5) Wesley Britt Bama (2-3)
6) Michael Munoz Tennessee (2-3)
7) Logan Mankins Fresno State (3-4)
8) David Stewart Miss State (4-6)
9) Anthony Alabi TCU (3-4)
10) Rob Pettiti Pitt (3-5)
11) Adam Snyder Oregon (3-5)
12) Wes Sims OU (4-6)
13) Rian Melander Minnesota (4-6)
14) Ray Willis FSU (4-6)

Stars: 6
Quality players: 11



TE
1) Heath Miller Virginia (1)
2) Kevin Everett Miami FL (2-3)
3) Alex Smith Stanford (1-2)
4) Matt Jones Arkansas (1-2)
5) Eric Knott Michigan State (3-5)
6) Bo Scafie Texas (5-7)
7) Jason Randall Michigan State (6-7)
8) Victor Sesay Missouri (6-7)
9) Ben Hall Clemson (6-7)

Stars: 3
Quality players: 5




DT
1) Shaun Cody USC (1)
2) Anttaj Hawthorne Wisconsin (1-3)
3) Mike Patterson USC (1-3)
4) Travis Johnson FSU (1-2)
5) Jonathan Babineaux Iowa (2-4)
6) Anthony Bryant Bama (4-5)
7) Albert Means Memphis (3-5)
8) Jason Jefferson Wisconsin (4-6)
9) Marcus Jasmin Texas A&M (6-7)
10) Kevin Vickerson Michigan State (5-7)
11) Eric Coleman Clemson (5-7)
12) Jermaine Berry K State (6-7)

Stars: 3
Quality players: 7



DE
1) Erasmus James Wisconsin (1)
2) David Pollack Georiga (1)
3) Justin Tuck Notre Dame (1-2)
4) Marcus Spears LSU (1)
5) Matt Roth Iowa (1-2)
6) Dan Cody OU (1-3)
7) Bill Swancutt Oregon State (2-3)
8) Jonathan Goddard Marshall (2-4)
9) Vincent Burns Kentucky (4-5)
10) Jim Davis VaTech (4-6)
11) Simon Fraser Ohio State (4-6)
12) Clifford Dukes Michigan State (5-6)

Stars: 6
Quality players: 15



ILB
1) Channing Crowder Florida (1)
2) Barrett Ruud Nebraska (1-2)
3) Lofa Tatupu USC (1-3)
4) Odell Thurman Georiga (2-3)
5) Alfred Fincher UCONN (2-4)
6) Kirk Morrison SDSU (2-3)
7) Boomer Grigsby Illinois State (3-5)
8) Lionel Turner LSU (4-5)
9) Mike Goolsby Notre Dame (3-5)
10) Lance Mitchell OU (3-6)
11) James Kinney Missouri (4-6)
12) Leroy Hill Clemson (5-7)
13) Adam Lenhortt WV (5-7)

Stars: 4
Quality players: 10



OLB
1) Derrick Johnson Texas (1)
2) Daryl Blackstock Virginia (1-2)
3) Kevin Burnett Tennesee (1-2)
4) Michael Boley Southern Mississippi (2-3)
5) Matt Grootegooed USC (2-5)
6) Patrick Thomas NC State (4-5)
7) Ryan Claridge UNLV (4-6)
8) Ronald Stanely Michigan State (5-7)
9) Cornelius Wortham Bama (5-6)
10) Jonathan Welsh Wisconsin (5-7)
11) Derek Curry Notre Dame (6-7)

Stars: 3
Quality players: 8



CB
1) Antrel Rolle Miami FL (1)
2) Adam Jones WV (1)
3) Carlos Rogers Auburn (1)
4) Justin Miller Clemson (1)
5) Marlin Jackson Michigan (1-2)
6) Brandon Browner Oregon State (1-2)
7) Fabian Washington Nebraska (1-3)
8) Corey Webster LSU (2-3)
9) Eric Green VaTech (2-4)
10) Antonio Perkins OU (3-5)
11) Travis Daniels LSU (3-5)
12) Bryant McFadden FSU (2-4)
13) Kelvin Hayden Illinois (3-4)
14) Scott Starks Wisconsin (3-4)
15) Dominique Foxworth Maryland (3-5)
16) Cedrick Williams K State (3-4)
17) Aric Williams Oregon State (4-6)
18) Antwaun Rogers Purdue (4-5)
19) Chris McKenzie ASU (3-5)
20) Lamont Reid NC State (3-5)
21) Dustin Fox Ohio State (4-6)
22) Markus Curry Michigan (5-7)
23) Brandon Shelby OU (6-7)

Stars: 6
Quality players: 20



FS
1) Thomas Davis Georiga (1)
2) Vincent Fuller VaTech (1-3)
3) Josh Bullocks Nebraska (2-3)
4) Brodney Pool OU (1-2)
5) Gerald Sensabaugh UNC (2-4)
6) Ben Emanuel UCLA (2-4)
7) Jason Harmon Michigan State (3-4)
8) Jim Leonhard Wisconsin (2-4)
9) Sean Considine Iowa (3-4)
10) Mitch Meeuwsen Oregon State (5-7)
11) BJ Ward FSU (5-7)

Stars: 4
Quality players: 10



SS
1) Ernest Shazor Michigan (1-2)
2) Jamaal Brimmer UNLV (2-3)
3) Donte Nicholson OU (2-3)
4) Andre Maddox NC State (3-4)
5) Junior Rosegreen Auburn (3-4)
6) Matt Grootegooed USC (2-5)
7) James Sanders Fresno State (3-4)
8) Diamond Ferri Syracuse (4-6)
9) Jerome Carter FSU (5-7)
10) Mike Williams Kentucky (5-7)

Stars: 4
Quality players: 10



Possible sleeper 1st round picks.

Charlie Frye
JJ Arrington
Ben Wilkerson
Richie Incognito
Terrence Murhpy
Brandon Browner
Vincent Fuller
Lofa Tatupu
Michael Munoz
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