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Old 09-18-2004, 03:36 AM   #31 (permalink)
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1. Shaq
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B Miller - Webber, Peja and Bibby love to take shots
Dampier - Dirk, Finley and Stack love to take shots
[/b]Ben - can't score much.[]/b
9.5 points, 12.4 rebounds (2nd in the NBA), 3.04 blocks (2nd in NBA), 1.7 steals (probably first among centers, 7th in the L), 2nd in DPOY voting. Yeah, my guess is Ben Wallace will become a legitimate top-5 center any time now
And by the way, you left Ben Wallace off because of offensive numbers, yet he scored more PPG than Theo last year, and I don't see his numbers skyrocketing this year.
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Old 09-18-2004, 11:18 AM   #32 (permalink)
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He could be a borderline All-Star this year at best, but I think he's been hyped up a bit too much since the end of the season, which is quite easy to do when no baskestball is being played.
Thing about Dalembert, I see him making the ASG if the Sixers jump out to a great start in the first half of the season. Iverson's popularity alone will be enough to lift him into the game.

I wouldn't say Sammy's top five, but I think he could squeeze his way into the top ten. He's shown a ton of improvement last season on some offensive moves, but he's still extremely raw on that end, and has a lot of work. From what I've read he's been working on his offensive game all offseason, so it'll be interesting to see what happens this year. Also, I'm hoping his basketball IQ is a little higher this season.
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Old 09-18-2004, 11:25 AM   #33 (permalink)
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in the final month, if u exclude that game where he only got 20 mpg, dalembert averaged 13 ppg-13.5 rpg-1 spg-5 bpg, thats a lot better than most centres in the league, if he can do anything close to that this season, he'll be an all-star, and he'll only get better, hes still very young
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Old 09-18-2004, 11:40 AM   #34 (permalink)
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1. Shaquille O'Neal
2. Yao Ming
3. Ben Wallace
4. Jamaal Magloire - Has shown no signs of slowing down. Huge on the offensive glass, can hit jumpers and has a decent array of post moves.
5. Brad Miller

6. Zydrunas Ilgauskas - Will be a big part of the Cavs making the playoffs. Cavs can throw the ball down to him and expect a basket. Defense has greatly improved, still isn't great at attacking the boards.
7. Erick Dampier - Sure he just had a contract year, but that doesn't mean he'll stop rebounding.
8-10. Samuel Dalembert/Marcus Camby/Theo Ratliff - They can all block, run the floor, and get some points from offensive putbacks. None of them have any go to moves, and aren't stellar defenders either. Ratliff is the best shot blocker, but weak on the boards. Camby will be fighting for minutes with Nene, I don't see him putting up better numbers than last season. Dalembert isn't going to explode this season, he had a strong run at the end of the season but as we've seen before that doesn't mean anything.
It will be interesting to see how they pan out over the season.
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People undervalue Eddy Curry a lot. Eddy Curry has consistently improved each year. 20 pts 8 rbd isnt just throwing out numbers. He might even go for more then that if in shape. These are just pretty much following his out of shape path.

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Here are my predictions for how Dalembert does.

11 points 10.5 Rebounds 2.8 BPG in 36 minutes. I would say this would be good but not great. I think some of the numbers are a little overhyped by numbers. I think his and Chandlers numbers will be very very similiar. Chandler might have more rebounds and blocks though but in the 1-2 RBP and .5 BPG range give or take for both players. And give 4 or take 2 for ppg. Dalembert will be a good player next year but I doubt he gets enough attention for the allstar game and I'm not sure he would deserve it with those numbers. Elton Brand doesn't make it with 20/10.
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People undervalue Eddy Curry a lot. Eddy Curry has consistently improved each year. 20 pts 8 rbd isnt just throwing out numbers. He might even go for more then that if in shape. These are just pretty much following his out of shape path.

www.hoopsdata.com

Here are my predictions for how Dalembert does.

11 points 10.5 Rebounds 2.8 BPG in 36 minutes. I would say this would be good but not great. I think some of the numbers are a little overhyped by numbers. I think his and Chandlers numbers will be very very similiar. Chandler might have more rebounds and blocks though but in the 1-2 RBP and .5 BPG range give or take for both players. And give 4 or take 2 for ppg. Dalembert will be a good player next year but I doubt he gets enough attention for the allstar game and I'm not sure he would deserve it with those numbers. Elton Brand doesn't make it with 20/10.
Chandler will be playing at PF for the Bulls, so I didn't include him in the poll. As for Curry, he may well put up 16-18 ppg this year but he is still a defensive liability and I haven't heard anything other than rumors about his improvement on the boards and conditioning.
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Old 09-18-2004, 05:07 PM   #37 (permalink)
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dont count on chandler or curry, they were supposed to good already and every year they dissapoint
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Old 09-18-2004, 07:05 PM   #38 (permalink)
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He may be top ten this year but

1. Shaq
2. Ming
3. Miller
4. Ben
5. Dampier
6. Ilguaskgas
7. Magloire

are all better

he can compete with (Curry, Kaman, Wright, Ratliff, Foster, Nesterovic, Divac, Camby, Mohomoud, Araujo) for the last three spots. I think he has a very good chance at top ten.
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I'm going to break it down nice and simple for you all.

1. Shaq is the best center and will be for a few years.
2. Yao Ming, who did you think I was going to say Shawn Bradley?


Now Erick Dampier is overated garbage and so is Igauskus. Kaman no chance, same with Wright, Foster no, Nesterovic no, Divac to old, Mohammed not quite there yet. Araujo hell no what the hell were you smoking. Ben Wallace I am going to count as a power forward considering center discussions. Marcus Camby, well didn't Ken Griffey prove that even when things are going great the past will come back this season.

That leaves Brad Miller, Jamaal Magloire, Samuel Dalembert, Eddy Curry, and Theo Ratliff in a jumble for the spots after Shaq and Yao.

I think it will shape up.

shaq
Yao
Eddy
Dalembert
Miller
Magloire
Ratliff
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1. Shaq
2. Yao
3. Z
4. Theo
5. Samuel Dalembert

B Miller - Webber, Peja and Bibby love to take shots
Dampier - Dirk, Finley and Stack love to take shots
Ben - can't score much.
Samuel Dalembert over Brad Miller and Dampier? Are you kidding me?

Dalembert over Ben Wallace? Purely preposterous! Defense wins championships!

Sam is a good player but he has a long way to go. Maybe two or three years from now, he'll be in the TOP 10, but not next year.
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