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**Yao Mania** · 10-26-2004, 10:12 PM

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball...686450-ap.html

Wow Marc Jackson over Dalembert?? so what's all this with people saying Sammi was the future??

**Coatesvillain** · 10-26-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Yao Mania!
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball...686450-ap.html

Wow Marc Jackson over Dalembert?? so what's all this with people saying Sammi was the future??

Well it's not the end of the world, this is just for the beginning of the season, I wouldn't be shocked to see changes happen eventually.

Marc Jackson deserved the starting nod at Center, he's been playing outstanding in the preseason, but he'll be hurt a couple weeks into the season.

Aaron McKie starting?

That's a terrible move, I haven't watched tonight's game yet, but he hasn't been impressive at all during the preseason.

Looking at this, maybe O'Brien wants to allow Kenny Thomas to be more effective working with AI (because he's the only other proven scorer in the starting lineup).

I'll hold back judgement and see what it looks like.

**Coatesvillain** · 10-26-2004, 10:42 PM

One last thing...

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Robinson did not play in an exhibition game against Utah on Tuesday night and left the locker-room before the game to tend to unrelated family matters. Robinson, entering his 11th season, has started 668 of 679 career games and has a 20.8 career scoring average.

"Glenn took it about as good as any NBA player has ever taken news that he was not going to be in the starting lineup," O'Brien said. "I have a tremendous amount of respect for the professional way he handled the situation."

I'll come out and say it now, RP McMurphy you were right. Big Dog is going to get traded or bought out. Not for even a fraction of a second do I believe that Robinson just happened to have to tend to "unrelated family matters" the day he finds out he's not starting.

**HKF** · 10-27-2004, 01:09 AM

Philadelphia is going to underachieve big time. I'm surprised they are starting Igoudala, I admit, but to demote Dalembert, is just stupid.

RP McMurphy · 10-27-2004, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic!
I'll come out and say it now, RP McMurphy you were right. Big Dog is going to get traded or bought out. Not for even a fraction of a second do I believe that Robinson just happened to have to tend to "unrelated family matters" the day he finds out he's not starting.

Yes, I laughed out loud when I read that. He has probably played his last game in Sixers uniform. He will be bought out by the end of the week.

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Originally posted by Hong Kong Fooey!
Philadelphia is going to underachieve big time. I'm surprised they are starting Igoudala, I admit, but to demote Dalembert, is just stupid.

With the way the Celtics are struggling, Philadelphia should run away with the Atlantic Division. Don't underestimate Jim O'Brien as a coach. He and Dick Harter will have this team playing incredibly good defense. I know you find that style of play boring, but they will win a lot of games. I wouldn't be shocked to see them make the Eastern Conference Finals.

I would not have demoted Samuel Dalembert either, but I don't think it's that big a deal really. He will still play starter's minutes so it's not like they are ruining his career. This is a reality check, for all the people on this website who have been overrating him.

Like you I am surprised that Andre Iguodala is starting. I thought he would average less than 10 minutes a game this year, it looks like I was completely wrong. I thought he would be a bust but when a coach who doesn't like to play rookies, puts you into the starting lineup from day one, that says a lot.

**HKF** · 10-27-2004, 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by RP McMurphy!

Yes, I laughed out loud when I read that. He has probably played his last game in Sixers uniform. He will be bought out by the end of the week.

With the way the Celtics are struggling, Philadelphia should run away with the Atlantic Division. Don't underestimate Jim O'Brien as a coach. He and Dick Harter will have this team playing incredibly good defense. I know you find that style of play boring, but they will win a lot of games. I wouldn't be shocked to see them make the Eastern Conference Finals.

I would not have demoted Samuel Dalembert either, but I don't think it's that big a deal really. He will still play starter's minutes so it's not like they are ruining his career. This is a reality check, for all the people on this website who have been overrating him.

Like you I am surprised that Andre Iguodala is starting. I thought he would average less than 10 minutes a game this year, it looks like I was completely wrong. I thought he would be a bust but when a coach who doesn't like to play rookies, puts you into the starting lineup from day one, that says a lot.

I may find the style of play boring, but I think Iverson at the PG spot is a disaster waiting to happen and I also feel that O'Brien is tremendously overrated as a Head Coach. He had one good season as a coach and I'm still not impressed. I think Philadelphia doesn't even make the playoffs.

Dirty Dirk41 · 10-27-2004, 02:26 AM

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Originally posted by RP McMurphy!

With the way the Celtics are struggling, Philadelphia should run

WTF do u mean the celtics are stuggling....Buddy its preseason an im tellin u it dont mean a thing.....Payton Pierce an crew will Dominate the division.....Philly will bomb an Celts will make the playoffs wit like a 5 or 6 seed....Im Telling u !

**sheefo13** · 10-27-2004, 04:47 AM

well since iggy is starting, this team has trouble at teh sf position. A few weeks ago i remember reading that big dog was diving for balls! But dalembert not starting? that is crazy, and it is going to hurt my fantasy b ball team......

**BEEZ** · 10-27-2004, 04:48 AM

HKF I agree that Obrien is overrated as a coach but leaving AI at SG would be a disaster waiting to happen. Him playing point is the only way to honestly prolong his career IMO. Also Just a general rant. obrien is already making me not like him. Mckie could have avg 40 pts a game in the preseason and that still wouldnt justify him starting. I mean NO Willie Green did not set the world on fire in the preseason but Aaron Mckie who is terribly out of shape in the starting lineup. Give me a break

See ya Big dog we hardly knew ya.

Get the F! up outta here

**HKF** · 10-27-2004, 10:06 AM

I can see where you're coming from with that BEEZ, I'm just very confused with how O'Brien came to the conclusions he did. McKie and Jackson should not be starting.

Why isn't Salmons given a chance?

**Coatesvillain** · 10-27-2004, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by Hong Kong Fooey!
I can see where you're coming from with that BEEZ, I'm just very confused with how O'Brien came to the conclusions he did. McKie and Jackson should not be starting.

Why isn't Salmons given a chance?

I've asked the same question all offseason, I was hoping if it wasn't Green starting at SG it would be Salmons. He missed last night's game due to a groin injury, I have this feeling that he'll be on the IR even though he proved to be more than adequate when given minutes running the point.

After watching last night's game, McKie was simply appalling, he can't run with anyone, he's not a threat on offense, the guy is in terrific shape for his age but he's so old physically that it doesn't matter he's terrible now.

Based on the games prior to tonight, Marc Jackson did perform best at Center, but last night it wasn't hard to see that Dalembert had a better game.

Now on Willie Green and Allen Iverson, when they have them running the point, they bring something else to the table but at the same time they're taking things from their teammates. I love PGs being decisive, but AI's trips to the line aren't going to help the other offensive players get into a rhythm. Willie Green's a SG, and there's no need to question it, he had a few possessions in a row where he took the ball down the court and attacked the basket. I have come to grips that these are guys who are going to have inflated stats this year based on how they're playing.

I really hope that AI would play more like he did in the Olympics, in regards of passing the ball. Also he still has that nasty habit of leaving his feet for almost every pass he makes.

Kenny Thomas probably will benefit most from the removal of Robinson, and he is probably the best carry-over from the starting lineup to play with bench players, except when Green wasn't passing the ball to him.

Like every year with the Sixers, the weaknesses are blatantly obvious, but before it's all said and done I'll be ignoring them only to fuss about them at the end of the season.

adomis82 · 10-27-2004, 10:59 AM

Anyone think this might be a move to try and get Dalembert more aggresive and motivated. It seems to me that a Marc Jackson PF and Dalembert C would be the best matchup for the 76ers.

**sheefo13** · 10-27-2004, 01:40 PM

First off iggy is not fit to start. He just is not fit to start. Marc jackson is a good player, coming off the bench. Dalembert should be the starter no question, and sitting wont get him motivated, it will get him pissed.

yeah i was expecting salmons to have more of an impact this season. But i guess o'brien sees something we dont see. If all this works a week from now, we will be calling him a genius. I also think the philly fans are underrating mckie. He had the best percentage for 3s last year. He is a good defender. And i think mckie benefits more in the starting lineup with his shot. otherwise this starting lineup would be all slashers. It will open up a lot of shots for mckie.

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