Coatesvillain

It's not exactly relevant here (it's actually a logical fallacy) but his comments make me wonder what the Nets record is Vs the Heat without Shaq.

I barely caught any of this one, got home from the library and they were down big and Granger was putting in work, so I don't know what happened.

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Jizzy

Well, actually, the Heat really do miss Shaq. His presence gives guys like Payton and Posey a much easier time on the offensive end. By just him being out there carrying that wide load, he contests shots pretty well and offensive payers tend to not drive into the paint as much. Just saying.


With Shaq, The Nets took 3 out of the 4 against the heat last season. The one loss without Shaq. But the regular season really has no value when it's playoff time.

Coatesvillain

This just in.. the terrible Atlanta Hawks won in OT over the Cavs, they are 3-1.

The average Indiana Pacers are now 3-1.

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DieSlow69

How is one guys opinion fact. Most of the guys here were saying the Magic were suppose to be good and Miami you guys said we didnt have a chance against them. (Route your Miami post is needed now. What did you say they would say after we beat the Heat ....) In YOUR opinion if you think he's right then that's totaly your opinion. NOT A FACT. I on the other hand think he is wrong as HELL and he was waiting on us to lose so he could say something. I didn't see him around a week ago . SOUNDS LIKE A HATER TO ME!!!

But hey a loss is a loss we didnt play good basketball. We are still kicking azz though and will continue to do so!!!!

Sliccat

But, he is correct in stating that, based on last season, beating two lottery teams and a team missing it's best or second best player isn't a great thing.

Whether he's being a vulture is beside the point. The point is, as you said, they didn't play good basketball.

This teams lack of ability to sustain any sort of determination is their main weakness. They could play well, even very well, if they could ever sustain an effort. Team-wide, this is sorely lacking.

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Missed the game completely so cant comment on how we played but by NO MEANS is Orlando a lottery team and I know be4 we beat them there were many who thought they were pretty damn good I know at least Beez said they were a Sho-in for the playoffs

What I dont understand is this, Ok everyone said ATL sucked point taken, Bulls Crush the Heat and wow Heat are the next best thing since sliced bread, Orlando then crushes the Bulls, look out Orlando is nasty this year. We beat Orlando then beat the Heat, Ohhhh Orlando sucks they are a lottery team and the Heat are garbage without Shaq its last year all over again. What a bunch of bull****. If Im not wrong last year the heat killed us without Shaq didnt they, so wouldnt that be different from last year? and why be4 we beat Orlando are they great but then when we beat them they suck.

The one person Im surprisingly going to give props to is Coates for keeping it real, at least he is correcting all those punks who is saying ATL sucks and Miami is garbage without Shaq etc.

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Jizzy

Ok. The Hawks beat the Knicks, Magic and a surprising win over the Cavs. They aren't exactly knocking off prime teams here.

The Pacers beat the Sixers, Charlotte and the Knicks. Again, they are beating teams they are supposed to beat.

If you look at it record wise, you could say the Hornets are the best team in the NBA with the Mavs being the worst. But as you should know, it is not like that.

Not to take anything away from your guys 3-1 start, great start. 6-8 place in the East is definetly a possibilty for this team IF you can keep up this play. But hey, if the playoffs started today, you guys would have the best record in the East.

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*edit* Cavs are a top tier team and the hawks beat them, Orlando was considered great when they knocked off the bulls, and Shaq honestly contributes 25 minutes nowadays at the best anyways so dont tell me we havent done ****. Like Die said you kept your *** away from here when we were winning and show up after our first loss, Also you wanted to point out the Hornets vs the Mavs record. If the Hornets keep playing the way they are playing they could be the best team right now. Same goes for the Mavs if the Mavs keep it up they are one of the worst right now.

There's no need to be that aggressive.

Ohhh and Btw you better becareful what you say about a shaq-less Miami team bc you play them this friday and Shaq very well might not play and if NJ were to lose to them..........HOW EMBARASSING it would be for you wouldnt it?

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Jizzy

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lol...Are we ready to annoint the Hawks as an elite team? Who actually thought the Magc were great? They sure haven't looked great there past couple of losses.
Shaq contributes in more ways then you think of. Limiting him to a 25 minute contributor is an understatement.
So by looking at the teams record and judging how they play, can we assume that every tea, will beat the Mavs and the Hornets are unstoppaBULL?

lol... Well, you'll have your shot at Toronto soon enough. I like you guys, that's why I like posting at the Sixers forum.



But you just said above Shaq is a 25 minute player, lol. It would not be embarrasing at all, let me tell you. Dwyane Wade is amazing.

Coatesvillain

It's early in the season though, discrediting wins doesn't really work this early. All teams are on an even playing field within the first 10 games so to say one win is more important than another is crazy, because the best a team can do is beat who they play.

I think you're looking a lot at how teams were last season and not considering that some of these teams have improved. It's not that the Magic, Hawks and Pacers are great teams but as of right two of those three are playing great basketball.

I'm not looking at record wise as a way to tell who's best, because you don't get a real feel until we're 15-20 games into the season.. but as of right now if someone were to say the Hornets were closer to being the best in the league than the Mavericks, they'd be correct because the Mavs are playing terrible basketball right now.

Right now it's a better start than I could've anticipated and I'm happy with it. I thought they'd stumble out of the gates and instead they've been performing ahead of my expectations, and the crow is outside cooking on the grill.

I don't think anyone is saying that because this is how it is now that's how it'll be come playoffs, no what is being said is "this is how it is now, so don't try to discredit wins."

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Jizzy

All true but there are some wins that should have more value then others. You're correct in that every team starts off with a blank slate and most teams are not even playing there best ball and might not be for a while but there are some teams that you should be truimphant against.


I guess I somewhat did but none of those teams dramatically improved, IMO, enough to say that they've completely changed. I still think only one of those teams will make the playoffs. Guess we'll find out during the season.


I can understand that especially with the power rankings and such. I was just forseeing into the season and I do think the Mavs will be better then the Hornets but right now, you could argue Oklahoma City/NO is betteror playing better at least.

It's definetly surprising, no doubt about that. I actually thought the Sixers would make the playoffs.

Not trying to discredit the wins at all. I've applauded your team here for the start. I'm just questioning how long they can keep it up. But great and surprising start. nonetheless.