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11-19-2007, 11:05 AM
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Re: 76ers have 18 pts and it's almost half time
^Oh ok. Lets compare Dalembert to arguably the greatest center of all time. How many players that started playing basketball late have gone ahead to have HOF type careers
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11-19-2007, 11:09 AM
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Green is expendable huh? So he's not STARTING? He isn't overpaid and another example of King's horrible talent recognition? Those were the names off the top of my head. But since we're just making unfounded claims as we go along:
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Francisco Elson starts too.
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Do you disagree that Kyle Korver is a horrible rebounder and lacks mental toughness and is largely a one dimensional player?
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Tremendously. Korver is a very tough-minded individual. He works and hustles relentlessly. One dimensional, yes, but so is Bruce Bowen.
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11-19-2007, 11:10 AM
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^Oh ok. Lets compare Dalembert to arguably the greatest center of all time. How many players that started playing basketball late have gone ahead to have HOF type careers
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Or we could sarcastically respond to each other's posts and ignore their points. Whichever you'd prefer.
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11-19-2007, 11:13 AM
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Or we could sarcastically respond to each other's posts and ignore their points. Whichever you'd prefer.
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Point being, why arent there so many players following that pattern. Hakeem is the only true successful player that started of late, at least to me he is.
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11-19-2007, 11:18 AM
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And all that is due to athletic ability, how exactly does that refute my point that he's a moron if you're so experienced in watching him play? his basketball iq is awful, are you saying it's not because he averages 11 and 8? He's dumb on help defense dumb on spacing on offense and dumb on fundamentals.
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There are plenty of athletic big men in the league who can't get those averages (steven hunter). The guy has a feel for how to play the game. Does he have flaws? Yes. Is all of his success due to athleticism? No.
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How can someone averaging 2.22bpg be dumb on help defense?
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Because he goes for blocks too much. He gets alot of silly fouls, even still, that he should have outgrown a couple years ago.
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11-19-2007, 11:21 AM
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Point being, why arent there so many players following that pattern. Hakeem is the only true successful player that started of late, at least to me he is.
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Dikembe Mutombo.
I'm not saying its easy, but after so many years in the league, you should start to understand when to go for blocks and when to just play defense. These aren't extraordinary things if you want it bad enough. Dalembert doesn't.
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11-19-2007, 11:23 AM
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Francisco Elson starts too.
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Does that mean willie green is a good shooting guard? I don't quite get the relevance to the thread.
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Tremendously. Korver is a very tough-minded individual. He works and hustles relentlessly. One dimensional, yes, but so is Bruce Bowen.
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He doesn't hustle for rebounds from what I've seen, and mentally he doesn't seem to do the things necessary to break through slumps. IF he's not shooting well he's not doing anything for your team. AS much of a scum bag as Bowen is, if he gets beat off the dribble (which he does quite a bit the last few years) he'll play you the same way on defense the next trip down the court.
Why isn't anybody arguing about Reggie Evans who should never start for an NBA team?
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11-19-2007, 11:24 AM
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Korver is actually a decent defender BTW
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11-19-2007, 11:26 AM
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Korver is actually a decent defender BTW
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He's average.
Thoughts on Reggie Evans?
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11-19-2007, 11:27 AM
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Dont really care too much about Evans. People have always said he is a good rebounder and use his PER 40 or whatever it is to argue for him. I guess he is the one dimensional player after all
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11-19-2007, 11:32 AM
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Dont really care too much about Evans. People have always said he is a good rebounder and use his PER 40 or whatever it is to argue for him. I guess he is the one dimensional player after all
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It's fine you don't care much, but we're discussing the starting lineup and you're claiming to have watched the team more heavily than I have. I'm saying he's terrible and if you disagree I'd like to know why. I watched him quite a bit in Seattle and the Sonics desperately needed him to do ANYTHING to provide front court ability for their team. He was so bad sometimes he looked like he had just gotten out of bed. Slow mentally and as far as I can tell will never develop offense. For the 76ers a lot of times it looks like he goes out of the way not to get the ball unless it's on a rebound.
Is that an unfair criticism of him?
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11-19-2007, 11:34 AM
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Well what other option do they have at the PF spot? Randolph, Smith? I do think Smith will eventually get the starting spot over him, but why rush a rookie into that position especially when they arent going to be competing for a playoff spot. Does that answer your question?
At least for now Evans provides rebounding to the team
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