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This is taken out of context - Arenas was talking about Iggy, Okafor and Deng refusing 12 mil/year contracts
oh ok, never mind then.
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Old 12-13-2007, 04:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Arenas calls out Igoudala

This was taken completely out of context.

Arenas was saying he doesn't have "it" referring to that he shouldn't turn down 12 million for 14 million because he isn't worth Kobe money. And he's right...Iggy is NOT Kobe. He also said Okafor wasn't worth Dwight Howard money and Deng wasn't worth LeBron money.

Sad to see how people are so easily misled by journalists sometimes.
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^ Did you read the blog? I posted the section in this thread. Arenas called him a secondary player.
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Gilbert Arenas blog is one of the best things about the NBA. Do you guys realize what a privilige it is to have this kind of access to one of the strangest minds in the game today. He's not like annoyingly weird like Rodman. He's just so much like pretty much everyone on these boards that it just cracks me up. He's a really good writer too. His blog is as good as Sports Guy's articles.

And his larger point in that blog was pretty convincing. He was talking about how these guys are stupid to turn down the 12 million because they won't get that offer down the road sure thing. He talked about how Samaki Walker and Joe Smith both turned down massive deals thinking they would get more, but they ended up losing money they'd never make back for their career.

He also ripped Luol Deng and Anderson Varejao. Pretty much all the players who turned down big money this offseason he tore into.

God his blog is good.

http://my.nba.com/forum.jspa?forumID=400032200&start=0
Read it for yourself!

Plus his wikipedia page is one of the best ones out there.

"At the Wizards' first home game of the 2006-07 season (November 4, 2006), during the introductions, Arenas came out wearing a blue robe with a hood, looking like a boxer. He was supposed to resemble a "wizard."[19]

Arenas does not wear size 13 sneakers on the court even though his feet are size 14½, as popularly believed. This was a misquote from an interview. He actually wears shoes a half size larger.[20]

During the 2006 NBA season, he began to shout the word hibachi as he took field goal attempts in games, explaining, "You know, a hibachi grill gets real hot. That's what my shot's like, so I've been calling it that: 'Welcome to the hibachi'." He has also stated that while he is scoring on opponents, he is "cooking chicken and shrimp" in reference to his "Hibachi grill," and that if his opponent wanted to double team him, he would "cook fillet mignon" as well.[21]

On December 23, 2006, Arenas told The Washington Post he had begun replacing "hibachi" with the phrase "quality shot," a direct reference to Kobe Bryant who had felt Arenas' shot selection was questionable and that he seemingly lacked a conscience. "Out of that whole game I probably took two bad shots," Arenas would respond. "And for me not to have a conscience? You're right. When you're an assassin, you don't have a conscience." Nonetheless, Kobe stated that Gilbert Arenas is one of the most difficult players to guard in the NBA.[22]

On January 3, 2007, Arenas hit a very long game-winning three-point shot to beat the Milwaukee Bucks. In a post-game interview, Arenas stated that he did not shout "hibachi" or "quality shot." Rather, he told reporters that "My swag was phenomenal."

On January 15, 2007, Arenas hit yet another game-winning three-point shot to defeat the Utah Jazz. When observing both video clips of the game winning shots, one can see that Arenas throws his hands up signaling a basket before the ball actually falls through the net. Upon leaving the court to chants of "M-V-P!" Arenas said, "MVP? That trophy is given out at the end of the year. This is (37) games into the season so you can't do too much about it."[23]

According to Gilbert Arenas's blog, he predicted that he would hit the game winner against the Utah Jazz on January 15, 2007.[24]

On January 23, 2007, when asked about Gilbert's remarks about predicting his next game against Portland, Phoenix coach Mike D'Antoni jokingly said, "I can't wait to see what he does against Duke. He's gonna kill Duke."[25] Gilbert then responded by saying that given their soft rims, he'd probably score 84 or 85 points at Duke, and that he'd be willing to give up playing an entire NBA season to play against them. He added, "I wouldn't pass the ball. I wouldn't even think about passing it. It would be like NBA Live or an NBA 2K7 game, you just shoot with one person." [26]. While at Arizona, Arenas played against Duke in the 2001 NCAA National Championship game. He scored 10 points on 4-17 shooting.

After a team practice, Arenas made a $20,000 bet with fellow Washington Wizard DeShawn Stevenson. Arenas claimed he could make more shots from the college basketball three point distance (approximately 19.75 feet) with one hand than Stevenson could make professional level three-pointers (approximately 23.75 feet) using two hands. Out of 100 attempts, Arenas completed 73 shots. While Stevenson was taking his shots, Arenas attempted to distract him during nearly every shot attempt, including trying to do a street basketball trick involving falling on the floor, throwing another basketball in the air in front of Stevenson's path, throwing an invisible football, and mimicking shooting motions off to Stevenson's side, and break-dancing on the floor, among other acts. Stevenson needed to make his final ten shots just to tie, but only made his first five shots before missing his sixth (meaning Stevenson completed 68 of 96 attempts), leading to Arenas winning the bet and extravagantly celebrating. Arenas added "I hope this don't mess you up for tomorrow" as a parting shot while Stevenson left the court.[27]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Arenas

The section called Gilbertology is hilarious. It's all the wacky things Gilbert has done put next to each other.

I don't know if there's an NBA player who would make me laugh more to be around than Gilbert.

He's a good player too when healthy. He's capable of playing toe to toe with the best. He's proven that. And that gets my respect.
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Can you imagine if Gilbert won an NBA title? I don't even know what would happen. Imagine if he was in like New York. He'd be the most beloved figure in basketball.
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I enjoy reading his blog, but he has absolutely no business talking about contract situations of other players, not one iota.
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^ Did you read the blog? I posted the section in this thread. Arenas called him a secondary player.
I did read the blog. Did you? I find it hard to believe you could read the actual blog and totally miss the spirit of the article.

He was listing tons of young guys and how they turned down 12/10 million because they wanted 1 or 2 million more. He pointed out how Jameer Nelson wanted Devin Harris Money. He was saying how these guys should be thrilled to get 12 million from where they came from and how their parents would whoop their behinds for turning down that money. He said how you can get injured and get nothing and pointed out Joe Smith and Samaki Walker and Latrell Sprewell and Anderson Varejao all turning down money and losing a combined $200 million.

To the subject of Iggy: Arenas only wrote those remarks to say why he has no business turning down $12 million. He didn't right them to "call him out." That's why it was taken out of context. He was saying why should a player who is a second option turn down 12 million. He basically "called him out" to say he shouldn't turn down 12 million. He wasn't trying to say he was a bad player.

He also called him Pippen, so any disingenuous journalist could right the article, "Arenas thinks Iggy is Pippen," quote him where he says that he is a guy every team needs, a great glue guy, Pippen, and there's an article where Arenas is praising Iggy. Again, this would be out of context because Arenas was only using comparisons and criticisms to say why you don't turn down 12 million.
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Why not - what's the point of having a blog if you are just going to say "both teams played hard"
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Re: Arenas calls out Igoudala

Let's break down what Arenas said about Igoudala very simply.

He said that Igoudala should take the offered $12 million because he's a secondary player - and deserves $12 million. Whether you agree with it or disagree with the assessment, Arenas was calling Igoudala a secondary player. You can't get around that without putting blinders on.
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I enjoy reading his blog, but he has absolutely no business talking about contract situations of other players, not one iota.
And you do? Get out of here. If anything he has more of a right than anybody on this board. And we talk about it all the time.
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Let's break down what Arenas said about Igoudala very simply.

He said that Igoudala should take the offered $12 million because he's a secondary player - and deserves $12 million. Whether you agree with it or disagree with the assessment, Arenas was calling Igoudala a secondary player. You can't get around that without putting blinders on.
The difference of opinion lies in the fact that you believe this means that he is "calling him out." Do you get that?

He gave examples of why you don't turn down 12 million just because you see a guy out there making 14 million. What if you get hurt and get nothing?

Iguodala isn't Kobe. He doesn't deserve Kobe money and that's what Arenas was saying. If you read the blog you would have seen that he told the story of Okafor asking for Dwight Howard money even though he isn't Dwight Howard. He said Okafor should be happy with 12 million instead of 14 million. He implied the same situation for Iguodala by mentioning Pippen. He said he's Pippen and not Jordan. I should make a jayisthebest mock thread to this called "Arenas praises Iguodala" for calling him Pippen.
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