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03-13-2008, 01:48 PM
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Kwisatz Haderach
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Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
While I've never been a huge fan of Willie Green I have to give the devil his due. Green is probably playing the best basketball of his NBA career. He's cut down his dribbles, managed to fit himself into the offense and become a more efficient player. He's also one of the team's better perimeter defenders. He's often matchedu up with PGs who are too fast for Miller.
While I'm giving him credit for his play this season it's obvious he doesn't fit into the long term plans of this team. The Sixers have both Lou Williams and Rodney Carney who'll be looking for more minutes and it's hard to not give it to them. Green has three years remaining on his deal, but only one of those seasons are guaranteed (according to shamsports.com).
That being considered (along with Green's affordable salary) he's a top candidate to be shipped this offseason. The question is what can you get in return for him? Picks? Can you get something reasonable for him in a package, and if so who would you package him with? Or do you think the team should hold onto him?
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03-13-2008, 02:12 PM
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
I just expected his scoring avg to be much higher than it is, especially now that he is a starter.
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03-13-2008, 02:47 PM
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
I'd trade him for an expiring contract... he'll never have a higher value than now until he is one, because (hopefully) he'll never be a starter again. With Louis Williams on the roster, he serves no purpose. I'd just as soon be rid of him.
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03-13-2008, 05:14 PM
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Kwisatz Haderach
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
Trading him for an expiring contract doesn't make sense because essentially he is an expiring contract.
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Originally Posted by Henry Rollins
“The average is the borderline that keeps mere men in their place. Those who step over the line are heroes by the very act. Go.”
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03-13-2008, 05:16 PM
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
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I just expected his scoring avg to be much higher than it is, especially now that he is a starter.
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Hey man, good to see you're still around.
I think his scoring average being what it is is a good thing. When he's scoring more than this it's as a result of a lot of stunting the offense, and forcing up bad shots. When Willie Green is a leading scorer your team isn't going to be very good. I think he's really starting to understand that he's a roleplayer and has adjusted his game accordingly. I mean it took him long enough.
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Originally Posted by Henry Rollins
“The average is the borderline that keeps mere men in their place. Those who step over the line are heroes by the very act. Go.”
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03-13-2008, 08:28 PM
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
I don't think Willie G has any business being a starting 2-guard in this league. That being said, I would love to keep him on the team as the sixth man off the bench. I think he would be a nice spark of offense off the bench, especially now that he seems to understand his role. The only thing with that scenario is that I am not sure Lou Williams or Rodney Carney have the ability to be starting shootnig guards in the league. I'd move AI to the 2, let Thaddeus Young play the 3 and hopefully we sign a power forward this summer.
This probably doesn't make too much sense, thats why I am not a general manager in real life...only in NBA 2k8.
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03-13-2008, 10:37 PM
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
I agree with you. For a bit there I expected Louis Williams to develop some PG instincts but it's obvious that he can't do that outside of fill-in duty. Carney would also be best utilized as a spark off the bench.
I'm not completely against Green staying, but this would be three bench wings who can score but aren't good perimeter shooters. I think one would have to be moved and in that case Green is the one who doesn't seem to be in the long term future.
And I definitely want to see Thad move to SF and Iggy at SG. Question is how does the PF spot get filled? Elton Brand has all but said he's picking up the option to stay in LA. There's the Chris Wilcox idea I mentioned, or the Sixers could look to the draft (I'm partial to Rider's Jason Thompson but I don't think he'd be ready to start as a rook). We'll see.
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Who cares about a championship drought?:
My teams will never win a championship anyway, so why don't you discuss everything else at my forum? Good idea, right? Yeah, I thought so. It's called.. Booing Santa Claus. See you there.
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Originally Posted by Henry Rollins
“The average is the borderline that keeps mere men in their place. Those who step over the line are heroes by the very act. Go.”
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03-13-2008, 11:47 PM
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
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I don't think Willie G has any business being a starting 2-guard in this league. That being said, I would love to keep him on the team as the sixth man off the bench. I think he would be a nice spark of offense off the bench, especially now that he seems to understand his role.
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The problem with that is that Williams already fills that role.
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Trading him for an expiring contract doesn't make sense because essentially he is an expiring contract.
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With 3 years left? There's absolutely no reason for both him and Williams to be on the roster. Kick one of them out.
Although, if williams' value is significantly higher, I could see moving him, keeping green, and getting a sg/sf shooter that can come off the bench. A Mo Pete type guy.
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03-14-2008, 03:22 AM
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Kwisatz Haderach
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
I probably wasn't clear in the first post, but Green is basically an expiring because only next year is guaranteed.
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Who cares about a championship drought?:
My teams will never win a championship anyway, so why don't you discuss everything else at my forum? Good idea, right? Yeah, I thought so. It's called.. Booing Santa Claus. See you there.
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Originally Posted by Henry Rollins
“The average is the borderline that keeps mere men in their place. Those who step over the line are heroes by the very act. Go.”
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03-14-2008, 04:30 AM
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
I think i was and still am one of the guys that i always wanted to see this guy on the team even when he got that injury before he signed the deal.
When Iverson was on the team and Iverson didn´t played he always had good numbers,now without Iverson i was hoping those points he used to score which didn´t happened the way i was thinking he would do.
With that said draft Jason Thompson that has been a leader since he plays in Rider for not say he is been a leader forever offcourse he needs to get in the NBA to see what is,but it would be a good thing for this team ,Green is a piece we can perfectly can give up now(we already know what he worth and i don´t think he has a margin of potencial Jason has) and i remember some years or months ago we didn´t had the same options of trade we have now.
Trading Green for just mid level draft picks ain´t the best option because after all i still think Green is better then those mid late 1st round or 2nd round draft picks but maybe we could ship more then just Green and get better trade options.
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03-14-2008, 07:05 AM
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Kwisatz Haderach
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
I mentioned Jason Thompson because he's a guy who I'm positive will be available when the Sixers draft. I was wondering whether he could be plugged into start as a rookie if the Sixers were unable to add someone through free agency. Someone will have to fill the PF void if the team is to move Iguodala and Thad Young to SG and SF respectively.
You bring up an interesting point though when talking about Green's value. What do you think Green is worth?
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Who cares about a championship drought?:
My teams will never win a championship anyway, so why don't you discuss everything else at my forum? Good idea, right? Yeah, I thought so. It's called.. Booing Santa Claus. See you there.
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Originally Posted by Henry Rollins
“The average is the borderline that keeps mere men in their place. Those who step over the line are heroes by the very act. Go.”
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03-14-2008, 12:00 PM
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Re: Glancing at the Offseason: Willie Green
I understanded you about Jason Thompson and i agree with you .
After i saw that trade of Gasol where Memphis was mainly focus on getting players with expering contracts and as you say Green is pretty much a future expering contract ,after see the Knicks with loads of PG i kinda would like switch Green(expering contract) more some draft picks and some players we don´t use that much if that would be needed for Crawford of the Knicks if that would mean somehow a trade of position by position and that would solve Andre Miller problem of age.
Crawford injury bringed back to the Knicks that Nate Robinson can be a future good PG for them and they still have Murbury right,so that for me could solve something,anyone see this happening or would like something like that ?
Also after we getting Crawford ,maybe we could open a bigger atention to the league and players market for our team and sign a good PF in the free agency.
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03-14-2008, 01:53 PM
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