It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

**Basel** · 05-31-2012, 08:10 PM

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Like ants at your picnic, oppressive humidity in New York or outrageous gas spikes in California, there are just certain annoyances we have to deal with every summer.

In Philadelphia, that is Andre Iguodala trade rumors.

And they are on again, reports Chris Broussard at ESPN.

The 76ers are looking to move Iguodala. They believe youngsters Jrue Holiday and Turner won’t grow to reach their potential as long as Iguodala is there.

He suggests a previously rumored Iguodala for Rudy Gay trade between Philly and Memphis should move forward. I have heard rumblings that the Lakers would explore Iggy as part of their shopping Pau Gasol around. Frankly, every team but the Bobcats will probably come up in the rumors.

And most likely, just as it always has been, no deal will be made and Iguodala will be a Sixer next fall. But know the rumors are coming like ants to your picnic.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-trade-rumors/

hroz · 06-02-2012, 06:44 PM

Yeah Sixers really do have to move Andre. If they can move up the draft board that would be preferable too.

**Luke** · 06-02-2012, 07:14 PM

Send him to the Lakers.

**Coatesvillain** · 06-02-2012, 10:55 PM

I honestly don't think Rudy Gay makes much of a difference.

If I'm running the Sixers I want to get a team that can compete for a spot in the ECF every year, and I think Gay keeps the team in around the same spot. The team needs size. Gay would give Turner and Holiday more room to operate, but the team would still be in the bottom half of the Eastern playoff teams.

**Coatesvillain** · 06-02-2012, 11:15 PM

The problem with the Sixers is that it's a fundamentally flawed team. They have to be creative with their next moves. It's either rip up a lot and step back, or be extremely creative as you move forward. A move like Iguodala for Rudy Gay is more lateral than anything else.

They're in a position right now with the new ownership and rising fan interest where they can't simply tear the team a part and rebuild. Fans are expecting a step forward (which realistically is home court advantage in the first and advancing to the second round. Bulls series this year was a fluke).

Right now Iguodala has his highest trade value of his career and that's the main reason you have to move him. He was the best player on the team but as long as he's here he's placed in a position that doesn't fit him and he gets undervalued on a nightly basis. Also Brand wants an extension but won't opt out unless he gets it. Sixers obviously want to amnesty him but there's no reason to amnesty him if you can't guarantee bringing someone else in. Kinda tricky.

Cap will open up regardless in 2013 but what can they really do right now?

**RollWithEm** · 06-03-2012, 05:12 AM

The problem with this team is obviously the front court. Brand looked very old in the playoffs. Spencer Hawes is simply outmatched almost every night. Lavoy Allen is a serviceable bench big. Boston exposed Thad as the horrible defender he has always been. They do not really have a legit starting big man on the roster. That's why an Iggy for Pau swap makes a lot of sense to me. Hopefully the Lakers would also want Thad in that deal. Then they could safely extend Brand for a lot less money and bench Hawes.

Meeks would be the short term solution at SG, but that's the next position they'd have to address.

**Coatesvillain** · 06-03-2012, 08:08 AM

I don't think extending Brand is a good idea. It's either amnesty him this year or let his contract come off the books after the season. He'll have his moments but he's too beat up to be anything but a liability for most of a 82 game season. Hawes has to go, and I can't take seeing Jodie Meeks start again.

**Bogg** · 06-03-2012, 01:17 PM

Iggy for Al Jefferson, straight up. Problem(s) solved.

**RollWithEm** · 06-03-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogg

Iggy for Al Jefferson, straight up. Problem(s) solved.

I heard this thrown out during one of the Spurs/Jazz games on the telecast of the first round. I liked the idea then, and I like it now... for both teams.

**Bogg** · 06-03-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RollWithEm

I heard this thrown out during one of the Spurs/Jazz games on the telecast of the first round. I liked the idea then, and I like it now... for both teams.

It doesn't address the Sixers interior defense needs, but it clears up the logjam on the wing while giving Philly a very good rebounder and excellent post scorer(on an expiring contract), and Utah clears the way for Favors at center while filling the enormous hole in their starting five next to Hayward. Iguodala's ability to be a secondary play-maker would be huge as well, because Devin Harris isn't exactly a top-notch set-up guy.

**Luke** · 06-03-2012, 01:37 PM

This trade would immediately put Utah in a much better position. They would really be a competent point guard away from being a force in the league if their young bigs continue to develop.

**RollWithEm** · 06-03-2012, 02:04 PM

Utah would do nothing but aid the development of Hayward, Favors, and Kanter with this move. I just wonder if they could unload Harris.

**Bogg** · 06-03-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RollWithEm

I just wonder if they could unload Harris.

Even if they can't, next year is the last on his contract. Clearly they wouldn't be in play for Deron Williams, but if they amnesty Harris they'd have 15ish million in cap space, allowing them to chase other guys on the free agent market, like Lin or Goran Dragic, or absorb a big contract(i.e. eat John Salmons' contract for Sacramento in return for Jimmer Fredette, and immediately sell out of season tickets).

hroz · 06-18-2012, 01:53 AM

LOL Utah isn't stupid enough to go chasing Fredette.

But I like the Andre for Al trade for both teams.
Gives Kanter Favors more time. And Turner more time.

06-02-2012, 06:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
hroz All-Star Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,783 Rep Power: 1396404	Re: It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors Yeah Sixers really do have to move Andre. If they can move up the draft board that would be preferable too. __________________ ROCKETS NBA CHAMPIONS 1993-1994 1994-1995 2012-2013

06-02-2012, 07:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,856 Rep Power: 4300832	Re: It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors Send him to the Lakers. __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

06-02-2012, 10:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Coatesvillain Kwisatz Haderach Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: West Philly Age: 30 Posts: 31,775 Rep Power: 18867400	Re: It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors I honestly don't think Rudy Gay makes much of a difference. If I'm running the Sixers I want to get a team that can compete for a spot in the ECF every year, and I think Gay keeps the team in around the same spot. The team needs size. Gay would give Turner and Holiday more room to operate, but the team would still be in the bottom half of the Eastern playoff teams. __________________ They have muffin in common Breakfast at Timothy's 1 Featuring: Cocaine 80's, The Internet, J*Davey, The Antlers, Ford & Lopatin, Fol Chen, ::M∆De::In::Heights::, SBTRKT. Breakfast at Timothy's Archives Slow Motion Animatronics

06-02-2012, 11:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Coatesvillain Kwisatz Haderach Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: West Philly Age: 30 Posts: 31,775 Rep Power: 18867400	Re: It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors The problem with the Sixers is that it's a fundamentally flawed team. They have to be creative with their next moves. It's either rip up a lot and step back, or be extremely creative as you move forward. A move like Iguodala for Rudy Gay is more lateral than anything else. They're in a position right now with the new ownership and rising fan interest where they can't simply tear the team a part and rebuild. Fans are expecting a step forward (which realistically is home court advantage in the first and advancing to the second round. Bulls series this year was a fluke). Right now Iguodala has his highest trade value of his career and that's the main reason you have to move him. He was the best player on the team but as long as he's here he's placed in a position that doesn't fit him and he gets undervalued on a nightly basis. Also Brand wants an extension but won't opt out unless he gets it. Sixers obviously want to amnesty him but there's no reason to amnesty him if you can't guarantee bringing someone else in. Kinda tricky. Cap will open up regardless in 2013 but what can they really do right now? __________________ They have muffin in common Breakfast at Timothy's 1 Featuring: Cocaine 80's, The Internet, J*Davey, The Antlers, Ford & Lopatin, Fol Chen, ::M∆De::In::Heights::, SBTRKT. Breakfast at Timothy's Archives Slow Motion Animatronics

06-03-2012, 05:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
RollWithEm Never Argue with a Fool Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 28,003 Rep Power: 5962494	Re: It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors The problem with this team is obviously the front court. Brand looked very old in the playoffs. Spencer Hawes is simply outmatched almost every night. Lavoy Allen is a serviceable bench big. Boston exposed Thad as the horrible defender he has always been. They do not really have a legit starting big man on the roster. That's why an Iggy for Pau swap makes a lot of sense to me. Hopefully the Lakers would also want Thad in that deal. Then they could safely extend Brand for a lot less money and bench Hawes. Meeks would be the short term solution at SG, but that's the next position they'd have to address. __________________ But that's just me. RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy) RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's) RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac 2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson

06-03-2012, 08:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
Coatesvillain Kwisatz Haderach Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: West Philly Age: 30 Posts: 31,775 Rep Power: 18867400	Re: It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors I don't think extending Brand is a good idea. It's either amnesty him this year or let his contract come off the books after the season. He'll have his moments but he's too beat up to be anything but a liability for most of a 82 game season. Hawes has to go, and I can't take seeing Jodie Meeks start again. __________________ They have muffin in common Breakfast at Timothy's 1 Featuring: Cocaine 80's, The Internet, J*Davey, The Antlers, Ford & Lopatin, Fol Chen, ::M∆De::In::Heights::, SBTRKT. Breakfast at Timothy's Archives Slow Motion Animatronics

06-03-2012, 01:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bogg Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,576 Rep Power: 3976807	Re: It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors Iggy for Al Jefferson, straight up. Problem(s) solved.

06-03-2012, 01:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,856 Rep Power: 4300832	Re: It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors This trade would immediately put Utah in a much better position. They would really be a competent point guard away from being a force in the league if their young bigs continue to develop. __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

06-03-2012, 02:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
RollWithEm Never Argue with a Fool Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 28,003 Rep Power: 5962494	Re: It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors Utah would do nothing but aid the development of Hayward, Favors, and Kanter with this move. I just wonder if they could unload Harris. __________________ But that's just me. RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy) RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's) RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac 2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson

06-18-2012, 01:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
hroz All-Star Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,783 Rep Power: 1396404	Re: It’s summer, time to start up Andre Iguodala trade rumors LOL Utah isn't stupid enough to go chasing Fredette. But I like the Andre for Al trade for both teams. Gives Kanter Favors more time. And Turner more time. __________________ ROCKETS NBA CHAMPIONS 1993-1994 1994-1995 2012-2013

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