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03-03-2004, 11:15 PM
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Dr. Hibbert
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Iverson 2 for 21 tonight
I think we are beginning to see the decline of AI. The Sixers are going to have to trade if for no other reason than to make up for the rest of the roster. This team is going no where fast.
2/21 my goodness. Allen stop shooting. 
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03-03-2004, 11:16 PM
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9% from the field..ada boy Allen!
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03-03-2004, 11:19 PM
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Ouch and I thought Steve Francis was bad....
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03-03-2004, 11:22 PM
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He missed his last 18 shots to finish the game. 
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03-03-2004, 11:28 PM
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He did have a bad knee, he shouldve stopped playing.
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03-04-2004, 07:40 AM
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Having missed the last four games with a sore shoulder, Iverson made two of his first three shots before bumping knees with Marbury late in the first quarter and taking a seat.
But he just said he had an off night.
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03-04-2004, 07:58 AM
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Only 3 worse shooting nights in NBA History. Bob Cousy and Truck Robinson are two of them.
Kid just needs some help out there. And he probably should not have played. Which is easy to say now. Almost all of the shots were very difficult shots though. Most were contested. So you do need to hand it to the Knicks defensive scheme somewhat, in addition to having a very off night.
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03-04-2004, 08:19 AM
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Of all the SGs that might be available this offseason I think that AI and Vince might just have the least trade value. I can see teams inquiring about Pierce and TMac before they ask about AI or Vince. Like Vince, AI is always getting injured. To his credit, he does play through pain. However, that willingness to play injured may have contributed to his current decline. This is his already 8th season in the league. I think the pounding that his body his taken over the years is finally catching up with him. You can already see that he's lost some of his explosiveness. Believe it or not, I think that PG might be the best position for him in the long-term. He's still got great vision and court awareness. If he curtailed his shooting and concentrated on passing more I think that he'd make a heck of a PG. He'll still have enough quickness to play that position. Plus, he'll be able to play on the perimeter instead of taking a pounding in the lane. I can see him averaging 15-10 at PG if he really wanted to.
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03-04-2004, 08:27 AM
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Well this really doesent seem like something AI would do but if the man is suffering from injuries that are really affecting his game why continue?Why didnt he tell the coach that he wasnt playing to even close to his ability and wants to be benched for rest of game or something
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03-04-2004, 09:07 AM
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Well atleast he made up for missing all those games and put up a stellar performance for my BBB.net hoops.sports league team! It's the playoffs!
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03-04-2004, 09:11 AM
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He missed his last 18 shots to finish the game.
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So tell me, who else is going to shoot the ball? Dalembert? Thomas? Snow?
This roster is sorry, they need everything they can get out of AI.
You do know he was playing hurt, right? There have been no indications in this thread that you've recognized his playing through pain, therefore I assume you have no idea why he shot so poorly.
Instead of rolling your eyes, maybe you should give him some props for going out there and trying to help his team. There are many others in this league who would have sat their overpaid asses on the bench and watched his team get punished by the opposition.
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03-04-2004, 09:23 AM
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Iverson is still the best shooting guard since Michael Jordan.
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03-04-2004, 09:25 AM
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Iverson is still the best shooting guard since Michael Jordan.
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You're damn right he is.
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03-04-2004, 09:35 AM
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So tell me, who else is going to shoot the ball? Dalembert? Thomas? Snow?
This roster is sorry, they need everything they can get out of AI.
You do know he was playing hurt, right? There have been no indications in this thread that you've recognized his playing through pain, therefore I assume you have no idea why he shot so poorly.
Instead of rolling your eyes, maybe you should give him some props for going out there and trying to help his team. There are many others in this league who would have sat their overpaid asses on the bench and watched his team get punished by the opposition.
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C'mon digital jello, that doesn't mean that he has to miss 18 shots in a row. I watched that damn game and I can see he is playing through pain but he is still horribly forcing all kinds of shots. Why not be a decoy in that situation and get the teammates involved?
The teammates obviously didn't shoot worse than 2/21. That is pretty pathetic. Iverson is not above criticism.
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03-04-2004, 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by <b>Pinball</b>!
I can see him averaging 15-10 at PG if he really wanted to.
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More like 25 and 10 if he wanted to.(or more like if his teammates didn't suck hard.)
He did have nice assist and rebound numbers last night. So he did try and contribute in other ways than just shooting.
Iverson is still one of maybe 3-4 guys who can get 50 points and 15 assists on any given night.
And I don't buy that he is slowing down.
Keep in mind. He did the whole summer olympic qualifying. That has added wear to him this season.
I don't think he's declining and breaking down as much as he is just tired right now. Tired in body and spirit. The losing and the coaches have had a negative effect on him.
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