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04-02-2004, 12:50 AM
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Iverson the most overrated player of my lifetime...
how can anyone not say this guy is overrated????? Im sick of all the BS arguments about his heart and how hard he plays. AI is overrated and that is all there is to it. His career FG% is 41%... that is just TERRIBLE! If this guy wasnt such a Thug wanna be, he would have no popularity at all. He is about to get ran out of his own town....... Anybody who says otherwise really doesnt know anything about basketball. This guy has skated along only on his rep and his rep is about dead. You know who else plays hard everytime that hes out there???? Bo Outlaw... U dont see Bo Outlaw getting all the props AI does!!! This guy has about 2 years left and i say his body breaks down and hes out of the league for good. We all know he wont come off the bench so whats he gonna do? anyway....
AI=Most overrated player in NBA history.
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04-02-2004, 01:04 AM
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Re: Iverson the most overrated player of my lifetime...
Either you haven't been an NBA fan very long, or you're not really 24. Or maybe both.
However, you are entitled to your opinion no matter how silly it may seem.
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how can anyone not say this guy is overrated????? Im sick of all the BS arguments about his heart and how hard he plays. AI is overrated and that is all there is to it. His career FG% is 41%... that is just TERRIBLE! If this guy wasnt such a Thug wanna be, he would have no popularity at all. He is about to get ran out of his own town....... Anybody who says otherwise really doesnt know anything about basketball. This guy has skated along only on his rep and his rep is about dead. You know who else plays hard everytime that hes out there???? Bo Outlaw... U dont see Bo Outlaw getting all the props AI does!!! This guy has about 2 years left and i say his body breaks down and hes out of the league for good. We all know he wont come off the bench so whats he gonna do? anyway....
AI=Most overrated player in NBA history.
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These types of posts make me sick. 
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04-02-2004, 01:35 AM
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single handedly leading his team to the finals 3 years ago and hes overrated???? i think not.
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04-02-2004, 01:36 AM
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last time i checked he didnt play 1 on 5. thats just what everyone makes it seem to be. And even so he is in the Eastern Conference. The east is TRASH
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04-02-2004, 02:04 AM
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last time i checked he didnt play 1 on 5.
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Actually, he probably did.
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04-02-2004, 02:14 AM
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I don't think he's overrated because he DOES deserve most of the praise he gets. RoY, has a few scoring titles, has brought his team to the NBA finals, MVP....
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04-02-2004, 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by <b>ripped110</b>!
how can anyone not say this guy is overrated????? Im sick of all the BS arguments about his heart and how hard he plays. AI is overrated and that is all there is to it. His career FG% is 41%... that is just TERRIBLE! If this guy wasnt such a Thug wanna be, he would have no popularity at all. He is about to get ran out of his own town....... Anybody who says otherwise really doesnt know anything about basketball. This guy has skated along only on his rep and his rep is about dead. You know who else plays hard everytime that hes out there???? Bo Outlaw... U dont see Bo Outlaw getting all the props AI does!!! This guy has about 2 years left and i say his body breaks down and hes out of the league for good. We all know he wont come off the bench so whats he gonna do? anyway....
AI=Most overrated player in NBA history.
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Now I've probably be harder on AI, more than anyone else on these forums lately, but I can't agree with this argument. Is Iverson overrated? Maybe so, but most overrated of your lifetime? Are you stepping out of Bizarro world or something my friend, there's no way he's the most overrated player in anyone's lifetime. Truthfully I think he's still one of the top 10 to 12 players in the NBA, if that's overrated we might as well take everyone and in the league and compare them to his "overratedness" and see how overrated they are. Allen Iverson is a player whom you can't take one game, or just a stat line, or a career average and say "That's what he is," because he is/was much more than that.
Allen isn't a player who is without flaws, but what makes him such an amazing player to watch is that everyone knows his flaws yet he succeeds anyway. He's a guy who basically has every reason to be an average player, yet he's not. He plays hard, and with a lot of heart, but I agree with you those arguments are overused, and maybe people do love him because of the way he carries himself. Allen Iverson is a great player in today's game, because of the impact he has on any given game, if you can't appreciate that, I don't know what else to say.
If you want reasons to why Allen Iverson isn't the player he was three years ago, I'll run along a list with you. If you want to go on about how he's breaking down, find me I'll agree with you. If you want to find someone who thinks it's in the Sixers best interest to ship him out.. yeah, you get the point. But if you want someone to say he's the most overrated player in anyone's lifetime, count me out.
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single handedly leading his team to the finals 3 years ago and hes overrated???? i think not.
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This is another statement that grows old, I think. Eric Snow, Aaron McKie, George Lynch, Tyrone Hill, Dikembe Mutombo, Raja Bell, and Jumaine Jones played sizable parts in the Sixers making that trip to the Finals. It's forgotten in the end, that Aaron McKie took over game 7 against the Raptors, and Mutombo showed signs of offense he never before or again showed, that Raja Bell and Jumaine Jones stepped up big time. That's all forgotten. If the Sixers didn't have Iverson, they wouldn't have made the Finals, but Iverson surely didn't get there by himself.
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04-02-2004, 08:01 AM
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I wouldn't say he's overrated... he's got the handle, and the speed, along with the jump shot.
However, I wouldn't say he plays with a lot of heart... Watch Penny Hardaway or Jim Jackson playing right now, knowing that they went through career changing injuries... that's heart. Knowing that you are a former-superstar and must give way to younger players (e.g. Joe Johnson), so you agree to coming off the bench, it just shows love of the game. That's heart, and Iverson has it... but he doesn't have enough of it.
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04-02-2004, 08:42 AM
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single handedly leading his team to the finals 3 years ago and hes overrated???? i think not.
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Really??? If he did it singlehandedly and the teammates had nothing to do with it, why didn't he go to the finals ( singlehandedly ) any other year? And why are they 8-3 without him since Feb.29th, and have a terrible losing record with AI?
Fact is Iverson has no heart, no brains, no handle ( carries all the time ) , no jumpshot ( as his 40% shooting proves ) and it's people who support morons like him that make me sick. You guys know nothing about basketball.
The most overrated player of all time is Shaq though.
That guy knows absolutely nothing about the game and has no skills whatsoever. Without help from those three refs on the court he's no better than Will Perdue playing with a broken leg.
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04-02-2004, 08:53 AM
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It's hard to argue with some of your logic.
I'm staying out of this thread, but I would like to say that it pretty much disgusts me. It's like some people have never even watched the game, read a newspaper, looked at a boxscore, looked at statistics, never listened to the radio, and have never had any exposure to basketball whatsoever, and then decided to comment on it.
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04-02-2004, 09:00 AM
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I think Iverson is a little overrated, but most overrated of your lifetime, or anyone elses? Not a chance. Iverson does shoot a very low percentage from the floor(too low), but come on, he's still a very good player, that is capable of shooting higher percentages with a reliable second scorer on his team, which he hasn't had. For example, put him on the Celtics for the last couple of years instead of Paul Pierce, I think the Celtics make it to the Finals at least once, with Iverson and Walker leading the way, and AI shooting 43-46% from the floor. You can't overlook what he does on the defensive end of the court, despite being so undersized. Iverson overrated? Yes, I think so. But one of the most overrated ever? Not a chance.
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04-02-2004, 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by <b>therealdeal</b>!
Really??? If he did it singlehandedly and the teammates had nothing to do with it, why didn't he go to the finals ( singlehandedly ) any other year? And why are they 8-3 without him since Feb.29th, and have a terrible losing record with AI?
Fact is Iverson has no heart, no brains, no handle ( carries all the time ) , no jumpshot ( as his 40% shooting proves ) and it's people who support morons like him that make me sick. You guys know nothing about basketball.
The most overrated player of all time is Shaq though.
That guy knows absolutely nothing about the game and has no skills whatsoever. Without help from those three refs on the court he's no better than Will Perdue playing with a broken leg.
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how can you say ur a fan of the game if you can't appreciate one of the most exciting players in this league? Yes he might be a bit overated but your sayin Philly's better without AI.. then i guess the Kings are better without Webber too huh?
dont blame the team's loss/success on one player! .....
the team lost key players ... they lost Coleman, Big Dog.. and now u say they lose bc of Iverson? But now they got something goin and ur gonna start pointing fingers at one person....
Im sure ur old enuff to know that MJ didn't win many games until he got Pippen...
so tell me.. where's Iverson's pippen?? I know it's a bit stretch for your lilttle brain to think this far... but please try ... Who does iverson have to help him??? McKie???? Snow??? Dalembert???? please...
u also fail to acknowledge that iverson's only 5'11" ... so to have the success he's had.. dont tell me he's overated
and SHAQ??? overated???? i know ur joking.... cause if you think this then you dont even deserve to be a fan...
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04-02-2004, 09:15 AM
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why dont you support your argument with facts
you ignorant SOB.
go back to where you came from. Arguments like this should be trashed if someone refuses to argue with crap like
"the east is trash"
you hater
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04-02-2004, 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by <b>therealdeal</b>!
Fact is Iverson has no heart, no brains, no handle ( carries all the time ) , no jumpshot ( as his 40% shooting proves ) and it's people who support morons like him that make me sick. You guys know nothing about basketball.
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hes got pretty good handles. and hes quick. once he loses a step what will he have to fall back on? his game smarts? dont think so. his shooting ability? no.
i really dont know what will happen to him after he loses a step. he game is based on beating his man, getting into the lane and drawing in defenders or drawing fouls.
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04-02-2004, 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by <b>therealdeal</b>!
Really??? If he did it singlehandedly and the teammates had nothing to do with it, why didn't he go to the finals ( singlehandedly ) any other year?
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This is a great point. Let's stop propogating the myth that Iverson "did it alone." That's showing tremendous disrespect to his teammates, who helped make the Sixers the best team in the East in 2000-2001.
Iverson was the best player on a team with other good parts.
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