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RyGuY43084 · 07-16-2002, 04:59 PM

I have heard that the Suns had the worst draft of anyone..... Well bottom line is that the phoenix Suns had the Best draft of anyone. Heres why!!!
A.) Amare Stoudimire is the type of player that we all will look back on this draft and see that he will be the best overall player taken in this draft. Twice so far in the summer league he has out played drew gooden and made him look like a sorry white boy who can't jump. I have watched these games and so far in the summer league he is averaging 19 pts a game. Secondly he had a dunk last night worthy of plays of the year in which he jumped OVER DREW GOODEN and slammed it through that left everybody in the pyramid standing and cheering!!!!Bottom line he is going to make an impact this year and in 2 or 3 years look for him to have a break out season.
B.) Casey Jacobson who you said is a slow white guy and couldn't see why the suns drafted him, had a chance to play against Mike Dunleavy. In case anyone missed it, Jacobson DOMINATED dunleavy every time down the court. Casey eanded up with 35 pts for the game and right now he is averaging 16 pts a game!!! He is a spitting image of 4 time all star Dan Marjle!!!
What does everyone else think?

Takeit2dahouse00 · 07-16-2002, 05:03 PM

Two words: Caron Butler

Spurs4Life · 07-16-2002, 05:10 PM

No offense, but just how much of a biased Suns can can you be??

Stoudemire-- the best pick in the draft?? I can think of others that were better:

Jay Williams
Drew Gooden
Caron Butler
Qyntel Woods
Mike Dunleavy Jr.
Dajuan Wagner

This are just my personal favorites that are better than Stoudemire. Stoudemire is from high school, and it totally unproven! You guys made the mistake of not taking Butler at 9.

Jacobsen-- wasn't this guy picked in the 20's?? And you're telling me he's the best shooter in the draft? Please!

Once again, here's a list of players that are better shooters (and potential) than Jacobsen:

Jay Williams
Dajuan Wagner
Mike Dunleavy Jr.
Qyntel Woods

The only thing that Jacobsen does well is shoot the ball, that's it. Just because that's his only talent doesn't mean he's the best shooter in the draft! Heck, Yao Ming is probably a better shooter than he is!

Please take off your Suns Sunglasses and come back to us in reality. You guys were a 50-win team 2 years ago, now you're a lottery team. Face it, your team isn't that good and pretending like you guys got the steal(s) in the draft doesn't make you look that good.

Sorry for ragging on you. You're just really flawed in your logic.

RyGuY43084 · 07-16-2002, 05:35 PM

You see that is the point.
First David Aldrige from ESPN was the one who predicted that Stoudimire would be the best player in the draft..... I didn't just come up with that. Secondly i have been attending the summer league games and WOW!!! those players that you said were so called "good" SUCKED. When Stoudimire who only plays 20-25 minutes a game, is putting up 14-18 pts, with 10 rebounds you have to look at his potential. For example Drew gooden played 34 minutes and was 7 of 19 shooting, while Stoudimire played 23 minutes, and was 7 of 10 shooting.
And secondly I agree with other players being more talented than Jacobson, but when Dunleavy played against Jacobson i said this will be the test of who has more potential. Both had a LOT to prove as both coaches were saying. In the end Jacobson had 35 pts and Dunleavy had 19. Mike played 36 min. and jacobson played 29 minutes. After the game i was talking with a few others that attended and ALL of them agreed after seeing that game and looking at the Stats for the entire league Jacobson was the best Shooter taken! Thats where i got saying that. Now im not saying that either of them will be all stars their first year. BUT THEY WILL MAKE IMPACTS!!! I am sorry to prove you wrong and make you look like a person who doesn't know what they are talking about. but go to see them live instead of playing the game on paper, then we will have something to talk about!
thanks!!!!

pharcyde · 07-16-2002, 06:35 PM

What's that supposed to mean? How is it that so many people say this and no one but me seems to care?

RD · 07-16-2002, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by RyGuY43084
You see that is the point.
First David Aldrige from ESPN was the one who predicted that Stoudimire would be the best player in the draft..... I didn't just come up with that. Secondly i have been attending the summer league games and WOW!!! those players that you said were so called "good" SUCKED.

A few years ago, I had the same impression of a kid right out of HS. His name? Leon Smith. Look what has happened with him.
Less than 10 seconds into his first SPL game, he blocked a shot into the crowd - Instant impact in the SPL and he looked phenomenal out there.

Stoudemire may or may not be a star. But DO NOT base in SPL play. It's good to get the guys out there and get some game experience against bigger players, but SPL success does not mean anything. Zach Randolph put up like 40 a game last year. Look at that great rookie year he had.

RyGuY43084 · 07-16-2002, 09:13 PM

hey... i TOTALLY agree, your absolutly right i shouldn't base SPL league play on their abilty. I apoligise and admit that it was a bit of an over statement. However i just wanted to prove a point when there is nothing but SPL to help prove it. I guess once the regular season starts we can really make a good predicition....
Fair enough.... thanks for the correction

STING · 07-17-2002, 01:10 AM

I really don't think Amare was the best pick of the draft. Jacobson is definitly a good shooter, but there is no way he is a better shooter than Juan Dixon. In the summer league, I was most impressed with Drew Gooden who scored 38 points in one game, Omar Cooke, who showed his ability to run the floor and penetrate, and Juan Dixon, who showed signs of improvement at the point.

However even though Juany-man is a great shooter, he definitly needs to work on ball-handling and passing, it hurt watching him play the point the first few games.

cmd34 · 07-18-2002, 07:05 PM

Laker fan here...but I wanted to let you guys know that Stoudemire is going to be nasty. He was clearly the most physically gifted player I saw in the summer league games. He was above the rim on every rebound and shot and he didn't back down at all. Also, Joe Johnson was pretty much doing whatever he wanted to do with the ball. Not a bad future over there...Marion, Stoudemire, Johnson, Tsakalidis, and Jacobsen.

Drew Gooden was a beast too but I heard that Stoudemire ate him up when they played.

dirty bruce · 07-22-2002, 09:10 PM

casey jacobsen = a taller tim legler

cmd34 · 07-22-2002, 09:32 PM

yikes..bruce were there any players from this year's draft that you DO like.

**The Truth** · 07-22-2002, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by STING
I really don't think Amare was the best pick of the draft. Jacobson is definitly a good shooter, but there is no way he is a better shooter than Juan Dixon.

Juan is a streaky shooter, and he can be great, but his percentages really aren't that good. I think you could make a case that Jacobsen is the better shooter, as you could argue for Dickau. I definitely wouldn't say "there is no way he is a better shooter than Juan Dixon."

cmd34 · 07-22-2002, 09:57 PM

this is the shooter/scorer debate. jacobsen may be the better pure shooter but i think dixon is better off the dribble and can create shots that jacobsen could not.

STING · 07-23-2002, 12:11 AM

It is a matter of opinion, but when someone gets open for a shot, you want it to be Dixon. He is streaky at times, but it usually occurs when he trys to get fancy. If the shot is open, Dixon will nail it.

However I think Jacobson will have the better NBA career, size matters at the SG position, and the only way to get around it is by making up for it with other skills. Juan instead will play the point, but its going to take time for him to adjust and learn everything he needs to know. He has another tough job ahead of him.

RyGuY43084 · 07-23-2002, 01:15 PM

You all prove a very good point, however, i wanted to REITTERATE the point that I know many will soon see. I just got done watching Drew Gooden take about 20 shots and make 6 of them. It seemed that every time he passed the ball it was stolen!!!!!! On thursday afternoon I hope that ANyone who can to turn on the T.V. and watch Amare Stoudimire along with Casey Jacobson play against skeet, and the rest of the Nuggets!!!.. Then i hope that all of you will see what I have witnessed in person for the last couple of weeks!!!! And thoses of you who want proof of Amare Stoudimire, and Casey Jacobson talent go to this website, and download the highlights of each!!!!
VIDEO DOESN'T LIE!!!
CASEY IS FLAT OUT THE MAN AND SO IS AMARE!!!!!!!!!
could be two strong candidates for ROY!!!!
here is the web site!!!!
www.suns.com
P.S. I think Casey is a good Mormon Boy!!!! So that means he automatically hs class!

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