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07-04-2006, 01:19 AM
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T.Thomas is loss Suns can survive
Found this on Clipper board. Interesting enough.
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Paola Boivin
The Arizona Republic
Jul. 4, 2006 12:00 AM
It wasn't so much that the Suns needed Tim Thomas as much as they made us believe they needed Tim Thomas. In the NBA, perception packs a powerful punch, and on Saturday, the Suns took a nasty left hook.
The reality is the Suns will enter the 2006-07 season with a team that is talented enough to win an NBA title. They erred in throwing around Thomas' name too much when they dumped their draft picks, because in truth, they knew getting the deal done was no sure thing.
"I could have handled it better," Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said Monday.
D'Antoni's coaching accomplishments during his brief career here earn him a mulligan. As far as his general manager skills, the jury isn't just out, it's sequestered after a bizarre opening week of free agency.
The dominoes started to fall Friday night when the Clippers, reacting to Vladimir Radmanovic's surprise announcement that he was moving to the Lakers, panicked and went strong after Thomas, putting a four-year, $24 million offer on the table.
Thomas' agent contacted the Suns late Friday to allow them to counter because Thomas meant what he said about wanting to return to Phoenix. Suns management had only 30 minutes to decide, though, because that's when the Clippers said they would withdraw their offer to Thomas.
Thomas was willing to take $21 million from the Suns, who had offered approximately three years for $12 million. In the end, the Suns decided that as much as they enjoyed having Thomas on the team, he was more a luxury than a necessity. They felt they could spend the money on greater needs, such as a backup point guard.
This wasn't about Robert Sarver refusing to spend the money, as many believe. The owner is sensitive to public perception after the Joe Johnson fiasco and has no desire to stroll that neighborhood again. It was D'Antoni's call as much as anyone's, and he felt the money Thomas commanded was better spent elsewhere.
Think of it this way: The Suns are set with their top eight players. The holes they fill likely will be for Nos. 9 and 10. Don't look for any splashy signings. And they feel good about their frontcourt with Amaré Stoudemire, Kurt Thomas, Boris Diaw and part-time power forward Shawn Marion.
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07-04-2006, 04:30 AM
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Re: T.Thomas is loss Suns can survive
Top 8?
Nash
Bell
Marion
Amare
KT/Diaw (6th man)
Barbosa makes 7 when he is playing well.
Who is number 8? James Jones?
Junior needs to step up this year. And we NEED a backup PG even if it means trading for one.
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07-04-2006, 05:47 AM
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Yhe JR i really think he could be great for us. Give him another chance this season, he was great at the beggining of the year until he injured himself and he never really came back from that injury. His defence and hustle got better as the season went on except his shot continued not to fall. If he works more on his shot, which i believe he will, we know hes a great shooter and if his shot improves then he will be a big contributing member of this team.
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07-04-2006, 05:51 AM
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yeah.. doesn't that leave more room to re-sign barbosa or diaw too?
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07-04-2006, 07:16 AM
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yeah.. doesn't that leave more room to re-sign barbosa or diaw too?
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Yeh exactly. TT was great for us but you can't hate TT for taking the money it was alot more and you cant be angry at Suns management for not pulling out a deal that was 3 million less. We just can't afford it. We have one of the most talented starting lineups in the NBA, and our first off the bench players are also great talents. Its wouldbe great to have a side thats deep with great and effective players but it doesn't happen. We are in a better position to resign Diaw, maybe Barbs (doubtful). TT was a luxury that we lost.
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07-04-2006, 03:29 PM
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Why doesn't anybody want Barbosa back? I've been watching this guy since his rookie year and I can't get enough of this guy. Sure he's an undersized 2 guard with hardly any defense but he fits our system.
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07-04-2006, 03:42 PM
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Why doesn't anybody want Barbosa back? .
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07-04-2006, 03:48 PM
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yeah.. doesn't that leave more room to re-sign barbosa or diaw too?
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I'd offer Diaw $60M and Barbosa $50M contracts at any time.
Add $110M to the books.
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07-04-2006, 03:50 PM
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60 and 50 million? you forget to mention how many years... and i dont think barbosa has proven that he's reliable yet..
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07-04-2006, 03:57 PM
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I'd offer Diaw $60M and Barbosa $50M contracts at any time.
Add $110M to the books.
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lol, no way. Barbosa would get MLE at the most. He will more than likely get a deal like Claxton did around 25 million.
Diaw maybe between 40-50 million
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07-04-2006, 04:07 PM
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lol, no way. Barbosa would get MLE at the most. He will more than likely get a deal like Claxton did around 25 million.
Diaw maybe between 40-50 million
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07-04-2006, 04:09 PM
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Thanks, but no thanks. I'll keep my pack of gum. Although, he can have Barbosa though for 50 million 
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07-04-2006, 04:46 PM
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This guy is the reason the suns made it past LA.
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07-04-2006, 04:54 PM
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