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Jabroni · 09-19-2007, 08:39 AM

The New ratings are out for the Suns on the 2K8 game. They look good. I do feel Nash is slightly over-rated and Diaw is under-rated but overall we have a great team.

Pg Nash (96)
Sg Bell (78)/ Barbosa (85)
Sf Diaw (79)
Pf Marion (93)
C Stoudemire (95)

Nash is the highest rated Pg, along with Arenas (96), Stoudemire is the top rated C and Marion is in the top 10 Pf. Duncan (98), Kobe(98), Garnett(97) and Dirk(97) are the only players rated above Nash I believe, Wade may be rated a 97 too but with last years injury it seems unlikely.

I haven't found any ratings on Hill but it may be because he is not in the top 20 in his position. Its comforting that we have 6 players in the top 20, by 2k Sports raters, in their positions.

veve130 · 09-19-2007, 11:07 AM

i dont think nash is overrated at all but i do beleive diaw is really underrated

**DANNY** · 09-19-2007, 11:56 AM

Barbosa's speed rating better be than last year's.

I was happy with his 3pt rating in 2k7 but the dudes the fastest player in the league yet his speed rating is only 89?

I expect 95 or better this time...

**IceMan23and3** · 09-19-2007, 12:26 PM

I think it was funny that Banks was the best defensive player on the last game. He was also faster than Barbosa in the game. Grant Hill has been in the mid 80s since 2k series came out. He's been injured but no one doubts his playing abilities when healthy. Nash is overall ridiculously good in the game (as he should be being that he is a 2xMVP). Marion is underrated in the game though. He should be above 95.

IF only Diaw didn't find a way to suck last season, he'd be great in the game.....

Jammin · 09-19-2007, 03:41 PM

Here is the ratings for NBA Live 08... Suns are ranked much worse...

Amare - 88 (only behind Duncan as C)
Marion - 88 (behind KG, Dirk, Brand as PF)
Diaw - 76 (behind alot)
Raja - 75
Barbosa - 77
Nash - 91 (tied with GA0)

Here are some overrated/underrateds affiliated w/ Suns...

PGs

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Overrated/underrated: When Gilbert signed to be on the cover, I guess he made sure to add the clause where he was the highest rated player at his position. Cover or not, putting him in the same class as Nash is a bit much. I also don't think Chris Paul deserves to be 4 points ahead of Deron Williams at this point. After watching Williams in the playoffs, I might even give him the nod over CP3 heading into the season.

SGs

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Overrated/underrated: Joe Johnson should feel a bit slighted with his 84, and if you watched any basketball last year and feel that Larry Hughes should have a better rating than Barbosa or Randy Foye, you deserve to get smacked in the head by Rafer Alston.

Resume · 09-19-2007, 03:50 PM

anyone got links to there pages with ratings?

Jammin · 09-19-2007, 04:06 PM

2K8 Rankings - http://www.gametap.com/home/read/art...1519c6c74a0c45

Live 08 Rankings - http://www.gametap.com/home/read/art...14b3825aa0013a

Only top 20 in each position...

veve130 · 09-19-2007, 05:08 PM

2k8 top ten point guards
1. Steve Nash: 96
2. Gilbert Arenas: 96
3. Allen Iverson: 93
4. Baron Davis: 93
5. Jason Kidd: 92
6. Chris Paul: 91
7. Deron Williams: 90
8. Tony Parker: 90
9. Chauncey Billups: 89
10. Kirk Hinrich: 85

the person that should feel slighted the most is tony parker dude just won a ring his 3rd and hes supposed to be worse than chris paul and deron williams , i think he should be 93 with iverson and bd and gilbert should be a 93 as well but he is on the cover so..... lol. deron williams is better than chris paul who didnt even make the playoffs some of the rankings are confusing

**IceMan23and3** · 09-19-2007, 06:55 PM

Is Francis a FA in this game? What team is he on?

Ras · 09-19-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IceMan23and3

I think it was funny that Banks was the best defensive player on the last game. He was also faster than Barbosa in the game. Grant Hill has been in the mid 80s since 2k series came out. He's been injured but no one doubts his playing abilities when healthy. Nash is overall ridiculously good in the game (as he should be being that he is a 2xMVP). Marion is underrated in the game though. He should be above 95.

IF only Diaw didn't find a way to suck last season, he'd be great in the game.....

I really have no interest in the game, but don't you feel that's a bit much, especially when in comparison Iverson is 93, Nash is 96, Dirk is 95, Elton Brand is 92, Carmelo is 94, Pierce is 91, T-Mac is 93,Yao is 92, and Baron is 93. At 95 he'd only be two below LeBron, Wade and co. Marion isn't a franshise player, and I assume people 95+ probably are. I'd even dare to say 93 is a tad high. In my opinion he isn't on the same plane as T-Mac, Yao, Pierce or Iverson.

Zei_Zao_LS · 09-19-2007, 11:24 PM

IceMan is a big Marion fan. You have to take what you're given and roll with it.

He has also said that Marion ought to be considered on the same level as K.G., to give a previously established example.

bircan · 09-20-2007, 04:41 AM

Lol, call me mad, but i think most of those stats are way too high.

Amare - 88 (only behind Duncan as C)
Marion - 88 (behind KG, Dirk, Brand as PF)
Diaw - 76 (behind alot)
Raja - 75
Barbosa - 77
Nash - 91 (tied with GA0)

That there is much more realistic than the 2k8 ratings. Diaw underated? The guy was one of the most disappointing this past season, but you know 70's is perfect for Bell, Diaw. 70s is like a B+. They are role players, and they avg 10-14ppg, 3-5 rebs. I would put gerald wallace, iguadala over diaw in overall ratings. Of course lets cross our fingers that diaw returns to 05/06 playoff form of 18, 6 and 6, hopefully moving kurt would have freed up more time for him, tho with Amare dominating our frontcourt with marion, dont expect diaw to do terribly well, but adequately ok.

88 amare is good too. Think about it critically, the players deficiencies. LOL at nash 96 rating in 2k8!!!! He must have 100 for everything cept rebound, def and block or something.

I like the game to be challenging. If u have everyone rated so high, its destroys the fun of it. I only ever play NBA Live i dont have a console system. I like to draft my own players rather than play preset teams, that way i can pick and choose a different mix and flavour to my team.

Enjoy playing the games!

Jammin · 09-20-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by veve130

2k8 top ten point guards
1. Steve Nash: 96
2. Gilbert Arenas: 96
3. Allen Iverson: 93
4. Baron Davis: 93
5. Jason Kidd: 92
6. Chris Paul: 91
7. Deron Williams: 90
8. Tony Parker: 90
9. Chauncey Billups: 89
10. Kirk Hinrich: 85

the person that should feel slighted the most is tony parker dude just won a ring his 3rd and hes supposed to be worse than chris paul and deron williams , i think he should be 93 with iverson and bd and gilbert should be a 93 as well but he is on the cover so..... lol. deron williams is better than chris paul who didnt even make the playoffs some of the rankings are confusing

Gilly is on the cover of Live 08, not 2K8...

**IceMan23and3** · 09-20-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zei_Zao_LS

IceMan is a big Marion fan. You have to take what you're given and roll with it.

He has also said that Marion ought to be considered on the same level as K.G., to give a previously established example.

Other than his 3pt shot, what does Marion NOT excel at? He has the lowest miss% on blocks in the league, also among the lowest % of his shots blocked in the league. As far as SFs go, he is the best rebounder in the league, one of the best defenders in the league, great hands for steals(top 5), amazing speed and quickness, good passing, and good ball handling. He is one of the most statistically impressive players in the NBA. The only qualm I have or anyone has with Marion's game is that he tends to shoot too many 3s instead of taking it to the rim. Marion is one of the best players in the league. Suns don't win without Marion.

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