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05-23-2008, 02:54 AM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
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Do we have our 09 pick? Or is that one traded to the Sonics? **** full on tank this season then grab DeRozan LOL...
ps: but I'd be happy with lil romeo too  haha
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Yep, we do have it. If we're going to suck, it's best to do it next yr. 2010 is not the yr to do it since Sonics own it. There might be a chance we don't make the playoffs next yr anyway.
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05-23-2008, 02:57 AM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
That is really gonna suck then...I can't see how we are going to do better in 2010 than 2009 
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05-23-2008, 02:59 AM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
Well, depends on the coach, draft pick, FA or two we get. Maybe a full yr of Shaq, the team can get used to him too.
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05-23-2008, 10:01 PM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
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Maybe a full yr of Shaq, the team can get used to him too.
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I think the problem with that is by the time we get used to him it'll nearly be time for him to retire or have an even more reduced role. It would be nice if we could get a good young center who could learn under Shaq and then eventually replace him as a starter.
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05-24-2008, 07:22 AM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
Would Suns fans do this?
So here's the deal. I'm playing a fantasy game with a friend (mostly just for video games). For the last few years, We've been trying to see who can "build" the best team staying as realistic as possible. Frequently, copying real trades. That said, i hold the your two missing picks (08 and 10)and the pick spurs pick in between(09). Would you trade Barbosa, and Diaw to get your two picks back? Taking back no salary in the process.
Edit- I can throw in Delfino also.
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05-24-2008, 02:31 PM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
One of em for the '010 pick, I'd do. I could really see the team just collapsing that season, so it might be a really good pick. Which is why it makes no sense that they traded it with no protection. A lot of salary comes off as well. Would've been a nice building block for the future.
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05-25-2008, 01:47 AM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
This is pretty funny.
Current Mock drafts for the Phoenix Suns are as is...
Draft Express
Brandon Rush SG/SF, Kansas
ESPN's Chad Ford
Donte Greene, SF, Syracuse
SI.com
Nicolas Batum, SF/SF, France
Collegehoops.net
Chris Douglas Roberts, SG, Memphis
Insidehoops.com
Roy Hibbert, C, Georgetown
Ridiculousupside.com
Joe Alexander, SF, West Virginia
nbcsports.com
Robin Lopez, C, Stanford
hoopsworld.com
Nicolas Batum, SG/SF, France
Probasketballnews.com
Darrell Arthur, PF, Kansas
nbadraft.net
DJ Augustin, PG, Texas
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05-25-2008, 05:09 AM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
looks mostly like a SF is needed, so they think. But we need this player to be somewhat mature/ ready to contribute, because we have to infuse that young blood and develop them faster now that we are aging. a SG/SF would be best insurance for Diaw and Bell. But a C is in dire need - unless we get Skinner and pickup Marks or someother big.
Take your pick, we need most positions, just be sure they count either now, or not too far down the track. 15 as a number isn't bad at all, so hopefully we can get something that we like
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05-25-2008, 04:18 PM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
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Would Suns fans do this?
So here's the deal. I'm playing a fantasy game with a friend (mostly just for video games). For the last few years, We've been trying to see who can "build" the best team staying as realistic as possible. Frequently, copying real trades. That said, i hold the your two missing picks (08 and 10)and the pick spurs pick in between(09). Would you trade Barbosa, and Diaw to get your two picks back? Taking back no salary in the process.
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No because Diaw is going to be the one who the offense is going to be run through. Barbosa still has a lot of upside, moreso than a draft pick and at about the same price.
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05-26-2008, 02:23 PM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
Another player I forgot to mention on my list on the last page is Bill Walker. Hope they'd give him a look. Yes, at 15. Kid's got ability and has been underrated all yr.
Not at all surprised at this. Says Suns have taken a liking to Rush.
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Rush has spent some time working on his body since the season ended, that much is evident. His upper body looks quite a bit more toned these days, although his lower body still needs some work. His wingspan is fantastic, likely somewhere in the 7-foot range, and he really knows how to use it to its fullest to get his shot off with his high release point.
Rush’s strength and size makes shooting from behind the NBA 3-point line a piece of cake in this setting. He looked effortless knocking down shot after shot, and only needed a glimpse of daylight to spot up while being defended in a fairly competitive pickup game by Bobby Simmons. He also defended him extremely well on the other side of the ball, using his length and height to contest his shots effectively, and not being afraid to fight back when the much stronger veteran took him down to the paint and posted him up.
In terms of weaknesses, Rush’s ball-handling skills are clearly a work in progress—the ball slows him down and he struggles a bit to beat guys off the dribble. The obvious lack of aggression he showed at times offensively at Kansas wasn’t something you could really measure in this type of setting. Still, teams are going to like the things that he brings to the table—size, athleticism, length, perimeter shooting, and excellent defensive ability—the combination of which is pretty hard to find in an NBA swingman, and could make him a very safe pick starting in the late lottery. There were rumblings here in Chicago that Phoenix in particular at #15 has taken a liking to him.
Less than a year removed from the ACL surgery that forced him to return to Kansas last season and indirectly helped him win a national championship, Rush’s athleticism is slowly returning to the level it was prior to his injury. It wouldn’t be surprising if he looked a lot more explosive in his rookie season than he did in his final year in college, ala Carl Landry, as it often takes up to 18 months to fully recover from the surgery (which many players now return much stronger from.)
Thoughts from Procopio: “Brandon Rush is one of the top wing players in the draft. No one plays off the ball better than him. He brings a lot of things to the table, starting with his very good size, which allow him to play either the 2 or the 3. He is long, athletic, and has a great basketball IQ. He can already make shots from deep. You can run him off pick and roll plays, pin downs, and he’s great in transition.
He reminds me of Caron Butler. He has the ability to handle the ball, spot-up and make deep shots, and defend. He can do so much. The sky is the limit for him. I think in time, he develop into a team’s second or third best player. He can be a top 50 player in this league without question, because he can do so much, and he’s so athletically gifted. At that position you need, length, speed, size, and skills-- and he has all that. Some of the 2’s in this draft are very limited, very undersized. This kid can do a lot of things. He’s been going full speed since he got here. He has a lot of upside. He’s a guy you have to discuss from 5 on. You can put him in the same breath as Gallinari, Eric Gordon. He needs to learn some things, but I really like Brandon Rush, I’m a big fan. Whether we trained him or not.”
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05-26-2008, 05:58 PM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
Walker sounds like a project and Rush sounds like a bust.
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05-26-2008, 06:54 PM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
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Walker sounds like a project and Rush sounds like a bust.
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This is coming from someone who likes Randolph.
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05-27-2008, 02:23 AM
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Re: Phoenix Suns Offseason/Draft Thread
^lmao.
Man I've been saying Rush for a good 3 months now. He looks like he could be a solid contributor off the bench in his rookie season (depending on who our coach is).
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