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05-11-2008, 09:59 PM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
^first of all as a Laker fan, dont tell me about dealing with Shaq FT woes. Secondly what you are talking about is completely different. Obviously you foul the crap out of him if he is about to dunk...er layup.
You just sound bitter about Pop using a boring as hell but good strategy. I dont like the FT either but it should not be solved by a rule change.
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05-11-2008, 10:04 PM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
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^first of all as a Laker fan, dont tell me about dealing with Shaq FT woes. Secondly what you are talking about is completely different. Obviously you foul the crap out of him if he is about to dunk...er layup.
You just sound bitter about Pop using a boring as hell but good strategy. I dont like the FT either but it should not be solved by a rule change.
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Trying to guard a player, and then fouling after he is about to score is a smart play. Fouling a person 50 feet away from the ball, is not basketball.
Could you imagine that happening in College or high school basketball? What a complete mockery of the game.
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05-11-2008, 10:09 PM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
"lost art of the mid range jumper" is now "lost art of the FT"...sad sad sad
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05-11-2008, 10:14 PM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
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^you scared me in the first sentence.
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Naw though, something needs to be changed, in lacks integrity. It's an unfair tactic. Because the rules allow it doesn't make it right. It's like Seuss was talking about guy's not being able to shoot 3 pointers. However since there isn't a strategy to force them to take them in the course of a game, you can't exploit that weakness. The free throw strategy needs to be changed. And I feel this way through out the league as a whole, not just with Shaq. When they do it to Ben Wallace I think the same thing, LAME. You can't win so you have to resort to this bogus tactic. It's pathetic in every way.
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05-11-2008, 10:35 PM
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Naw though, something needs to be changed, in lacks integrity. It's an unfair tactic.
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I would say quite the opposite, a rule change would take away from the integrity of the game. Its unfair to offer a team two free shots?!? Listen to that... Free shots! This isnt some sort of fade away J we are talking about...this is basketball, a sport that you have to put a ball through a hoop to score. A free throw is asking you to do the most basic thing in the game from 15 whole feet away....how unfair 
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05-12-2008, 12:01 AM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
Well its boring as hell but like I said earlier, this is a rule you're changing FOR THE BENEFIT OF ABOUT 5 PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE. Just cause a smart opposition coach is taking advantage of the poor shooting of an opponent, doesn't mean you change the rules to disallow it. Its a strategy and a part of the game, you can't just change things like that because people don't like it. You shouldn't anyway.
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05-12-2008, 01:50 AM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
well the league will do whatever it takes to make the game more fun and obviously a hack-a-somebody stratgy is something that doesnt go with the flow
if sterny can change the rule to make the league from being physical to softass in a span of 5 years or so, getting rid of the hack-a-what strategy in a short period of time should be a piece of cake
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05-12-2008, 03:22 AM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
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Well its boring as hell but like I said earlier, this is a rule you're changing FOR THE BENEFIT OF ABOUT 5 PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE. Just cause a smart opposition coach is taking advantage of the poor shooting of an opponent, doesn't mean you change the rules to disallow it. Its a strategy and a part of the game, you can't just change things like that because people don't like it. You shouldn't anyway.
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reggie miller kick out on his jumper ring a bell? just because its a severe minority that the issue is involved in, doesnt mean it should be looked at. I for one, hate that the hack-a-shaq crap adds anywhere from 10-15 minutes onto an already dragged out game. just assess the 1 shot and ball penalty as i said earlier, and if a poor shooting ft player doesnt make his shot, then the defensive team is no worse off, if he hits it then it costs the team a point, simple as that.
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05-12-2008, 12:16 PM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
So it goes from 2 FT to 1 FT and then gotta go to half court to take the ball out...thats should cut off plenty of time 
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05-13-2008, 01:25 AM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
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All players shoot the ball, there have been FT's since before any of these players were born. Learn to shoot a FT. Its not that hard.
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when your body is so dam big things happen in a different way... Shaq cant bend his wrist when he shoots the ball... wich makes it a problem for him to aim... but I dont think they should change the rule though...
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05-13-2008, 03:12 AM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
Shaq or no Shaq, I don't like the idea of intentionally fouling anyone other than the person with the ball. Basketball, as the name suggests, is about one team putting the ball in the basket and the other team preventing the ball from going in the basket. The focus, therefore, should be on the ball.
Of course, that's over simplifying the matter but I just don't see how intentionally fouling someone away from the ball should be an integral part of the game. It turns the game into a lottery. Free throws are meant to be a penalty for doing something against the rules. If it can somehow be turned into a reward then something is wrong.
If it were up to me, intentionally fouling someone away from the ball would be like a technical. It would cost a free throw plus possession. Or if not, 2 free throws but the team gets to choose who shoots. Either way, it should be punishment and not reward. I think the key word here is "intentional". If you intentionally break a rule then there should be little or no possibility for reward. I think that's applicable for any sport and basketball should be no exception.
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05-13-2008, 06:52 AM
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Re: NBA to look at "Hack-a-Shaq" Strategy
This is a sad day when the league is actually thinking about getting rid of the "hack a shaq" strategy... Shaq went from the man who was so dominant that teams had to resort to the hacking strategy in futile attempts to stop him, to the man who was so pathetic(that teams could just intentionally foul him and pretty much re-obtain possession because he can't hit a damn freebie) that the league had to get rid of intentionally fouling players.
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05-13-2008, 06:58 AM
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