Update: Hornets match Eric Gordon's 4-yr/$58M MAX offer sheet from PHX - Page 2 - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

**Dissonance** · 07-05-2012, 02:20 PM

Yeah, Gorat won't be headed there.

They'll want Lopez, Marshall w/pick, maybe something from LAL trade.

**RollWithEm** · 07-05-2012, 02:24 PM

I'm pretty sure the Hornets just want Gordon. Sign-and-trade is not likely.

**Dissonance** · 07-05-2012, 02:28 PM

No kidding but they won't want him if he don't want them.

We'll see. I was just saying the prospect of them doing S/T deal anyway.

**Dissonance** · 07-05-2012, 03:50 PM

He's taking it to the media

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Paul didn't want to be in New Orleans any longer, either, and Gordon suggested if the Hornets match the Suns' offer and retain him, they'd be looking at a similar situation. The four-year offer from the Suns, a source said, includes a player option on the fourth year.

"Phoenix just showed a lot more interest, overall, and definitely in how they negotiated," Gordon said. "I don't know what New Orleans' plans are for me. There are no negotiations right now."

That the Hornets drafted Duke guard Austin Rivers with the 10th pick also makes Gordon question exactly what their plans are for him.

"They drafted another shooting guard, a combo guard like me, which tells me they have another plan," Gordon said.

The Suns' recent committments -- point guard Goran Dragic and small forward Michael Beasley -- are a better fit, Gordon suggested.

"Phoenix signed two other young guys that are very talented," he said. "They're already established and they're already going to get better."

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/81...rleans-hornets

Tooeasy · 07-05-2012, 04:20 PM

Eric is sounding more and more like a whiny little kid, at this point I dont give two shits what happens with him. The hornets showed him "love" by offering him a 50+ million dollar contract midseason even with him riding the pine from an injury. Obviously indy and houston werent willing to offer a max contract when they met with him the past week, but since the suns showed him the money hes gotten a raging semi. It was stated that the plan was to have rivers at the point in due time, hes just butthurt that the hornets went with someone they thought was bpa available at 10 and happens to play the same position (and actually wants to play for new orleans no less).

**R-Star** · 07-05-2012, 04:21 PM

Hes fine saying he doesn't want to be there, but if they still decide to keep him he better shut his ****ing mouth.

Tooeasy · 07-05-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by R-Star

Hes fine saying he doesn't want to be there, but if they still decide to keep him he better shut his ****ing mouth.

that im completely on board with. If this is him not just posturing but literally using it as an outlet to say he doesnt like the hornets, then im glad its out in the open. Still, they can match anything and therefore he better not be a pouty little dick duster if hes wearing a hornets jersey next year and still got his max contract.

**R-Star** · 07-05-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tooeasy

that im completely on board with. If this is him not just posturing but literally using it as an outlet to say he doesnt like the hornets, then im glad its out in the open. Still, they can match anything and therefore he better not be a pouty little dick duster if hes wearing a hornets jersey next year and still got his max contract.

Yep.

chilltown · 07-05-2012, 05:44 PM

I dont understand why they would want him back anyways if he doesn't want to play for you, and has made it known that he doesn't want to play for you.. don't sign him. I know I won't feel sorry for someone who hears a rattlesnake's warning and picks the mother****er up to get bitten. Its their own damn fault lol.

New Orleans should just walk away or risk being like the Magic, only with a player who is not waffling back and forth. The guy doesn't want to be there. Don't be that psycho girlfriend.

btw that player option in the Suns contract is huge. It puts pressure on New Orleans way early in the deal if they do match it.

Its quite simple really.. If you want to be a successful organization, you get talented players who want to be there.

NOHornets · 07-05-2012, 05:54 PM

To me, he's got it all wrong as far as how committed the Hornets are to him. I've never once heard the organization say he wasn't "going to be a big part of our future". Drafting Rivers gave them the ability to play the two of them at the same time in certain situations, if not have them both start eventually. I realize now he's just posturing, and the Hornets shouldn't just match that offer and make him sign. At least get a few decent players and a couple of picks for him and move on...

Tooeasy · 07-05-2012, 05:55 PM

he was the cornerstone of a major trade and therefore letting him walk for nothing could really be a waste of him as an asset. Just because the suns did some corny orange carpet rollout with a photoshopped cardboard cutout of him in a suns jersey and wowed him with his first ever max contract, doesnt mean he should feel slighted by the hornets as they were looking to go off market value. I would have NO problem with the Hornets matching him and if he pouted then ship his ass off next offseason or during the season pending his approval to the location, as that would garner the biggest return for him.

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Originally Posted by chilltown

I dont understand why they would want him back anyways if he doesn't want to play for you, and has made it known that he doesn't want to play for you.. don't sign him. I know I won't feel sorry for someone who hears a rattlesnake's warning and picks the mother****er up to get bitten. Its their own damn fault lol.

New Orleans should just walk away or risk being like the Magic, only with a player who is not waffling back and forth. The guy doesn't want to be there. Don't be that psycho girlfriend.

btw that player option in the Suns contract is huge. It puts pressure on New Orleans way early in the deal if they do match it.

Its quite simple really.. If you want to be a successful organization, you get talented players who want to be there.

NOHornets · 07-05-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tooeasy

he was the cornerstone of a major trade and therefore letting him walk for nothing could really be a waste of him as an asset. Just because the suns did some corny orange carpet rollout with a photoshopped cardboard cutout of him in a suns jersey and wowed him with his first ever max contract, doesnt mean he should feel slighted by the hornets as they were looking to go off market value. I would have NO problem with the Hornets matching him and if he pouted then ship his ass off next offseason or during the season pending his approval to the location, as that would garner the biggest return for him.

Then the Hornets need to figure out if he's worth taking that risk. Otherwise, get some value for him in a sign-and-trade and start looking elsewhere.

**Dissonance** · 07-05-2012, 06:03 PM

You forgot his name outside on big screen or whatever saying cornerstone Eric Gordon and they announced his name, info walking into the court

chilltown · 07-05-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tooeasy

he was the cornerstone of a major trade and therefore letting him walk for nothing could really be a waste of him as an asset. Just because the suns did some corny orange carpet rollout with a photoshopped cardboard cutout of him in a suns jersey and wowed him with his first ever max contract, doesnt mean he should feel slighted by the hornets as they were looking to go off market value. I would have NO problem with the Hornets matching him and if he pouted then ship his ass off next offseason or during the season pending his approval to the location, as that would garner the biggest return for him.

That whole thing is why it will end up being a sign n trade IMO. signing him to 'save face' by the owner only makes the organization as a whole look even more JV.

Tooeasy · 07-05-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chilltown

That whole thing is why it will end up being a sign n trade IMO. signing him to 'save face' by the owner only makes the organization as a whole look even more JV.

Actually its even better than saving face, it shows Gordon that he doesnt have near the leverage he thinks in this situation. Matter of fact, if the hornets choose to match the contract, they can ship his ass to any team in the league EXCEPT the suns during the life of his contract... hows that for letting him know who wears the pants and tightens the belt in that relationship? Gordon would have to be on board with a s&t as well, and obviously he wouldnt want to watch the suns ship pieces that might compromise the team, hence the reason sign and trades really dont work that much with big name players. Im sure other teams could come up with much more enticing offers in the next few years than marshall and a late first rounder.

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Dissonance Super Bowl Champs Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 44,805 Rep Power: 16893179	Re: Update: Eric Gordon to sign 4-yr/$58M MAX offer sheet from PHX No kidding but they won't want him if he don't want them. We'll see. I was just saying the prospect of them doing S/T deal anyway.

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Tooeasy All-Star Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: washington state... again Age: 29 Posts: 7,202 Rep Power: 4059030	Re: Update: Eric Gordon to sign 4-yr/$58M MAX offer sheet from PHX Eric is sounding more and more like a whiny little kid, at this point I dont give two shits what happens with him. The hornets showed him "love" by offering him a 50+ million dollar contract midseason even with him riding the pine from an injury. Obviously indy and houston werent willing to offer a max contract when they met with him the past week, but since the suns showed him the money hes gotten a raging semi. It was stated that the plan was to have rivers at the point in due time, hes just butthurt that the hornets went with someone they thought was bpa available at 10 and happens to play the same position (and actually wants to play for new orleans no less). __________________ TOOEASY'S FAVE FIVE 1. Chris Paul 2. Kevin Durant 3. Derrick Rose 4. Rudy Gay 5. Kobe Bryant KVBL Hornets sim owner 2011-2012 KVBL Champions

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R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,804 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: Update: Eric Gordon to sign 4-yr/$58M MAX offer sheet from PHX Hes fine saying he doesn't want to be there, but if they still decide to keep him he better shut his ****ing mouth. __________________

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chilltown Veteran Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,434 Rep Power: 1129284	Re: Update: Eric Gordon to sign 4-yr/$58M MAX offer sheet from PHX I dont understand why they would want him back anyways if he doesn't want to play for you, and has made it known that he doesn't want to play for you.. don't sign him. I know I won't feel sorry for someone who hears a rattlesnake's warning and picks the mother***er up to get bitten. Its their own damn fault lol. New Orleans should just walk away or risk being like the Magic, only with a player who is not waffling back and forth. The guy doesn't want to be there. Don't be that psycho girlfriend. btw that player option in the Suns contract is huge. It puts pressure on New Orleans way early in the deal if they do match it. Its quite simple really.. If you want to be a successful organization, you get talented players who want* to be there. __________________

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NOHornets Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 158 Rep Power: 114557	Re: Update: Eric Gordon to sign 4-yr/$58M MAX offer sheet from PHX To me, he's got it all wrong as far as how committed the Hornets are to him. I've never once heard the organization say he wasn't "going to be a big part of our future". Drafting Rivers gave them the ability to play the two of them at the same time in certain situations, if not have them both start eventually. I realize now he's just posturing, and the Hornets shouldn't just match that offer and make him sign. At least get a few decent players and a couple of picks for him and move on...

07-05-2012, 06:03 PM	#28 (permalink)
Dissonance Super Bowl Champs Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 44,805 Rep Power: 16893179	Re: Update: Eric Gordon to sign 4-yr/$58M MAX offer sheet from PHX You forgot his name outside on big screen or whatever saying cornerstone Eric Gordon and they announced his name, info walking into the court

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