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Old 12-13-2003, 10:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Phoenix will be in the lottery

Stephon Marbury will soon write "all alone" on his sneakers because he has to play almost all minutes and generate the whole offense to at least keep the game somewhat close without getting any help at all.

Shawn Marion is in a real funk and has to battle PFs in the West now.

Without Amare and Zarko who will miss a month they will get outrebounded in double digits by any team in the league no matter how well Marbury plays.

D'Antoni starts 4 swingmen and a mediocre center. 6'7 Shawn Marion as almost full time PF....

Amare will miss like 14 more games and the Suns will be lucky to win more than 2 without Amare and D'Antoni as head coach.

That will be put Phoenix at 10-26 with no chance at the playoffs.
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sadly I think you're correct. I was one of the many people who predicted the Suns would make the playoffs again, and not as the 8th seed this time. But seeing how many good teams there are in the West right now, and how Phoenix isn't one of them, I don't see it now unless they turn it around quickly.
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If they were healthy it would be a different story.

But without Amare they can't win anything no matter how good Marbury plays. To top it off Zarko is out because of that thug Danny Fortson.

They have no size at all left on their active roster that can give them productivity at the PF spot.

Tom Gugliotta is limited to hitting open jumpers, Penny Hardaway is awfully inconsitant and so is Joe Johnson and for some reason Shawn Marion.

Stephon will soon be very frustrated. He puts up 30 points 9 assists 7 rebounds 5 steals 1 block and ZERO turnovers and his team still has no chance to win the game.
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They are really play bad ball right now. I just watched the Clippers beat them pretty easily.

I dont think it has much to do with Amare either, the Suns were playing bad before he was injured, but Amre and Zarko getting hurt are just insult to injury (no pun intended).

They could really use the pick right now.
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Amare is the difference.

He gives 10 boards per game, blocks shots, changes a ton of shots, intimidates the other team, gets them going with his highlights, gets the other big man in foul trouble.

Our PF rotation right now is 6'7 Shawn Marion and Tom Gugliotta....

That might not be that bad against some bad teams from the East but they can't battle the West teams with that frontcourt while they can do it with Amare.

Of course D'Antoni is just continuing Frank Johnson's coaching it seems.
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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There are too many good teams in the West. Phoenix have no chance

Lakers
SPurs
Kings
Wolves
Mavs
Rockets

Only 2 spots left
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The Rockets aren't a more talented team. They are more healthy right now, better coached and simply are getting more out of it.

Shawn Marion is being simply not being utilized the right way and makes it tough for himself.

The problem isn't how good the West is, the Suns were widely regarded the #6 team in the West this season. They are just not getting it done, one factor are injuries but they just aren't getting it done and one big reason is Shawn Marion.
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The Suns were what 7-10 even before Amare got hurt? So its not the injuries, its the fact that their system is not working. Amare getting hurt just adds to their horribleness this season.
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The Suns were what 7-10 even before Amare got hurt? So its not the injuries, its the fact that their system is not working. Amare getting hurt just adds to their horribleness this season.

Yeah. Amare getting hurt really is bad for them, but its not like they were doing too good before that.
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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They were 7-10 and 2 of the losses were by gamewinners at San Antonio and the Lakers.

They quit on Johnson. They got blown out by Denver by 30 and then on back to backs blew out Dallas by 30.

That isn't really any indication even if you consider that Shawn Marion is in a funk.
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Either way, they really hurt themselves by not making moves in the offseason. I'm not really sure of their cap situation, but they should really go after Kobe this offseason, and draft some size.
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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They can't unless they can move Marion and Penny for some huge expiring contract like Rasheed Wallace. Even then they might not have enough money.

Here is a list of all our players over 6’7” right now: Robert Archibald, Tom Gugliotta, Cezary Trybanski, Jake Voskuhl, Jahidi White, Scott Williams

+ Joe Johnson as they say he is 6'8 but he is our shooting guard.
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Oh well, maybe they'll finally be able to pick up an efficiently good SG or C in the draft.
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Old 12-14-2003, 12:29 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Even when they had Amare, they were a sub-par team. Amare imho,is very very overrated.
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Old 12-14-2003, 12:51 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Unless something dramatic happens, it looks like PHX will be playing ping pong next summer. Another disappointing year. Maybe we'll get lucky and win the lottery, otherwise I'm almost already done for this year.
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