RebelSun

Suns trade Marbury and Penny to NY Knicks for Antonio McDyess, Howard Eisley, Charlie Ward, the rights to Milos Vujanic, two first-round draft picks, and cash. The trade needs NBA approval first.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1700818

What do you think Suns fans? I like it.

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Arclite

I don't like it now, but it's going to depend on if all I've heard about Milos is true. Also, if McDyess can just HEAL it would be great. We'd have a very strong frontcourt, Amare might see 24-30 mins per game at C.

TomBoerwinkle#1

I think the Suns got the best of this one. Losing Marbury hurts, but Penny's future is iffy at best and he clearly wasn't happy with his PT in Phoenix.

Vujanic is going to be a heck of a player. A healthy Dice with a new start will contribute. Ward will give you some good hustle. Eisley is...well, you guys did good anyway.

Cap room for the FA market (Here Kobekobekobe...). Plus two first round picks that are likely to be quality picks. One step closer to getting Amare a ring, I'd say.

Brian34Cook

I think I might have to agree with Tom on this one.. Granted Marbury is my favorite player but I really dont know how it's gonna work and Penny isnt as good as he once was.. He's alright.. But they do have a nice backup PG in Frank Williams (All because Marbury has to take his Starting Spot, lol)

Arclite

Add Maciej Lampe to the list .

He could be huge, was projected to be as high as #5 pick up until the draft.

Starbury03

bye **** the Suns now the whole team was Star. I hate this trade for them but not for Steph. Also that Bo trade screwed them too.

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c_dog

Suns got screwed. Say goodbye to the playoffs for the next 5 years, and say hello to the lottery. Who is their GM anyway? He needs to be FIRED. Trading Outlaw and Big Jake for Brevin Knight??? And now he traded away Marbury??? What an idiot.

You DO NOT trade away your star player. You DO NOT trade away a player that's top 5 in his position, unless it's for someone of equal or greater value in return. McDyees used top be a top 5 PF, but not anymore. And his contract is expiring, so all you're gonna get is cap space. Cap space is for rebuilding teams, i thought this team is trying to make the playoffs??

Whether you suns fans like it or not, this team is probably rebuilding. I suppose it's not a bad idea to rebuild around Amare, but this team had a pretty good core to begin with. Now they traded away a young talented PG for nothing. I dunno, it pretty hard to find another pg as good as marbury. Marion's also not getting any younger. By the looks of it, Marion would be on his decline by the time this team finishes rebuilding.

Ward and Eisley have nasty contracts, and both are mediocre at their position at best. Sure Penny had a horrible contract, but Ward and Eisley's combined is just as bad?

and no way does Kobe sign with the Suns. He has two choices, LA(rings, and more rings) or Memphis(jerry west, and they have a handful of young promising players). Most likely LA. Why would he play for the suns? the free agent market doesn't look too good next year.

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TomBoerwinkle#1

Losing Marbury hurts, but I still believe the Suns got the best of this deal, especially now that Lampe is being shipped as well. If Vujanic's agent approves a deal, that is going to be one fine young team with lots of cap space. The Suns as is was NOT going to get to the promised land.

Arclite

Hmm.. well you're wrong on a few points. Ward's contract is expiring and he can be bought out before Jan. 10. Eisley has a bad contract, yes. I'd wager we can package either him or Jahidi with a first rounder to someone under the cap, like Utah, and get rid of them.

Memphis can't sign Kobe. The only way they could get him is a sign and trade. That would probably require players like Gasol, Watson or Williams, Battier, etc. Would you rather be the man in Memphis with Mike Miller and James Posey or the man in Phoenix, a proven winning team, with Shawn Marion and Amare Stoudemire?

I am not naive enough to think we're getting Kobe, but even WITH this trade, our future in.. say 2 to 3 years looks better than just about anyone else's right now. I agree about trading your superstar though.

Starbury03

why do people say all these Euros are good. Vujanic's hasnt even played in the league and Lampe isnt anything thats why he wnat secound round and cant get pt. Thats nothing for the best point god in the league.

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KokoTheMonkey

That's basically the same thing that came in my mind.

Can anyone do the math and figure just how many players are trading hands here, including the draft picks and such?

Starbury03

The Suns future looks crappy to me Marion hasnt played without a great point guard lets see how that affects him. And I am not convinced Amare is ready to carry a franchise. That could really hurt his carrer. If he doesnt play well he will get traded by the looks of the players the Suns are trading.

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Arclite

Maciej slipped to the second round because of possible contractual problems with the team who previously owned his rights, and many of the teams in the mid-late first round hadn't worked him out thinking he would go very early. Or they had made promises to other players (see: Zarko).

Zuca

Don't be surprised to see Googz traded...

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lucky777s

I can't see the Suns even wanting to re-sign McDyess. Not with the problems you have had with Googs and Penny. Dice will get some large, long-term contract offers from somebody.

So you are completely gambling on Lampe, Vujanic, and getting all-star quality help from your lottery pick and the Knicks first-rounder.

Wishful thinking is not great management.

Maybe management just looked around and said there is no chance to make a run in the West for the next 4 years, so let's rebuild.

I think that intentionally tanking your season is never a good move and can backfire big time. Create a culture of losing that is hard to break. Look at the Bulls and Clips.