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Old 01-25-2004, 05:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ok... suns got 2 good draft picks.... i really really like barbosa, but i dont think he has what it takes to be a solid point guard.. and i HATE vujanic because it seems that he always wants to stay in Europe and it doesnt look like he is coming here... I say we use Dyess, barbosa, and vujanic as trade bait to try to get another early pick in the draft or maybe a solid player on the trade block like eddy curry... then come draft day, we can draft the high school 6 ' 7 point guard shaun livingston. WOW. After watching one of his games, i immediately wanted to see him in a suns uniform... I think if we get him and a center like pavel or Perovic, and a great FA like Kobe, the 2005 suns could look like this...

C-Perovic/Pavel
PF-Amare
SF-Matrix
SG-Kobe
PG-Shaun Livingston...

(Good bench with Joe Johnson , Zarko, Jahidi, Maciej, etc)
(but then again... were all DREAMERS ) lol
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Old 01-25-2004, 05:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Its Barbosa's rookie year, give him a break hes still getting used to the team and the league, Marbury said himself that Barbosa was gonna be a future star. Vujanic said he was coming over next year because Zarko was his teammate on Serbia Montenegro. Dyess is for cap room next season so they can go after, rumor has it Kobe. Livingston would be a great pickup, but he has already signed with Duke and will not come out until later on. I think PHX needs to stick with their fastbreak style and go after Okafor maybe.
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Old 01-25-2004, 05:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ugh no.

Shaun Livingston would NEVER start over Joe Johnson NEVER.

Besides that I don't believe in oversized PGs.

Perovic wasn't even as good as Lampe in their junior tournament last summer.
Pavel is a bust waiting to happen.

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Old 01-25-2004, 05:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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With haivng Barbosa, Vujanic, and since we're probably not going to be able to get rid of him, Eisley at the point I don't see the value in Livingston.

I wouldn't be disappointed to see us use both picks on centers, or one on a center and one on a big PF.. in fact, I think we should, because that's where our obvious weakness is.. Jacobsen has been shooting real well lately, but when he isn't doing that he doesn't contribute anything, so the other option would be a backup swingman..

I don't know enough about Livingston to say one way or another, but I honestly can't see us drafting a project PG..
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Barbosa, Vujanic, Zarko, Amare, Lampe aren't going anywhere next year.
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Besides that I don't believe in oversized PGs.
Somewhere, Magic Johnson is shaking his head at this statement.
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Perovic wasn't even as good as Lampe in their junior tournament last summer.


which tournament was this?? Perovic played with the seniors of the Serbian national team in the European Championships this past summer.
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ya, maybe barbosa will be a great pg, but who do we start? vujanic or barbosa.. I honestly havent seen vujanic play but have heard that hes the real deal (in europe.) So who do u guys think should start?
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They were saying on the ESPN telecast that Vujanic is possibly the best pick and roll guard in the world.. the things I've been hearing about him make it sound like he may well be the starter here, but I think Leandro may have the higher ceiling.. hard to say right now, they're playing in way different situation..

Magnus is the one who has had the chance to see them both extensively.. assuming Vujanic is here next year who do you think would be more likely to start, Magnus?
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By the way, just because Livingston signed with Duke doesn't mean he won't opt for the draft. Look at Ndudi Ebi. He signed with Zona last year but pulled out at the last minute for the draft.
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vujanic has looked to score a lot more this year than distribute. i would like to see him at the 2 when he comes over. i was thinking something like this...

C - Pavel (or draftee)/Amare
PF - Amare/Lampe/Zarko
SF - Matrix/Zarko
SG - Vujanic/JJ (whoever plays better)/Jacobson
PG - Barbosa/Vujanic/Eisley
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vujanic has looked to score a lot more this year than distribute. i would like to see him at the 2 when he comes over. i was thinking something like this...
That looks like a playoff team to me...
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Old 01-26-2004, 06:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Why does everyone want to Bench JJ? He's only averaging 20+ points 6+ boards and assist since the trade.
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Old 01-26-2004, 08:44 AM   #14 (permalink)
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IGNORANCE

Please, Milos is a star, understand that and be grateful... Now, if you read the previous post that is basically this thread just longer you'd know that Milos is a great scorer and would play an Iverson-like SG while Barbosa could stay at the 1.

About Johnson, I too feel that he will eventually be benched only because as good as hes playing, Milos, Marion, and Barbosa are the current answers to their positions. If your worrying about PT, i dont think thats a problem because anyone who feels JJ should be benched should be the sixth man, and damn when you have JJ as your 6th, thats a deep team.
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Somewhere, Magic Johnson is shaking his head at this statement.
LOL

You can't seriously make that argument can you?

Magic that is one of how many? Livingston = Magic? LOL

Besides that Magic got burned by PGs like Kevin Johnson defensively.
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