Ind. Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Citizens To Use Deadly Force Against Police Officers - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

**Prince** · 03-23-2012, 08:39 PM

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Republican Governor Mitch Daniels has signed Senate Enrolled Act 1 into law in Indiana. The new law allows citizens to use deadly force against police officers they think are illegally entering their homes. Earlier this month, Addicting Info reported that the bill had passed the Senate. Republicans say the bill is designed to keep police safe, but Democrats say the bill will lead to the wanton killing of police officers.

Rep. Craig Fry, a Democrat, says the bill “is going to cause people to die and it’s too late after somebody dies for a jury to sort it out. Somebody’s going to die, whether it’s a police officer or an individual who thinks a police officer is entering their home unlawfully. People are going to die.”

Fry’s colleague, Democratic Rep. Linda Lawson, a former police captain, says the bill would create an “open season on law enforcement,” and it is opposed by “1,250 state police officers and 14,000 men and women in blue, brown and green.”

The new law reverses a state Supreme Court ruling that homeowners do not have the right to use force against law enforcement officials who they believe are illegally entering their homes. According to the Evansville Courier Press, an Evansville resident fought a police officer who followed him into his house during a domestic dispute call. “The state Supreme Court found that officers sometimes enter homes without warrants for reasons protected by the law, such as pursuing suspects or preventing the destruction of evidence. In these situations, we find it unwise to allow a homeowner to adjudge the legality of police conduct in the heat of the moment,” the court said. “As we decline to recognize a right to resist unlawful police entry into a home, we decline to recognize a right to batter a police officer as a part of that resistance.”

While announcing his decision to sign the bill into law, Governor Daniels tried to claim that the law doesn’t declare an open season on police officers.

“Today is an important day to say: Indiana’s outstanding law enforcement officers put their lives on the line every day to protect all Hoosiers. The right thing to do is cooperate with them in every way possible. This law is not an invitation to use violence or force against law enforcement officers. In fact, it restricts when an individual can use force, specifically deadly force, on an officer, so don’t try anything. Chances are overwhelming you will be breaking the law and wind up in far worse trouble as a result.”

But Governor Daniels is merely attempting to put political spin on a bad bill. Indeed, Daniels admits that he nearly vetoed it precisely because the bill could be grossly misinterpreted and could lead to killings of police and citizens. This law is basically a loophole for citizens to kill police officers and claim self-defense. There are many people out there who think no police officers have the right to enter homes or property, even if there is a warrant.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03...cers-into-law/

**R-Star** · 03-23-2012, 08:57 PM

I read 2 sentences. This just isn't a good idea.

**Prince** · 03-23-2012, 09:09 PM

It doesn't make sense at all.

**Ron** · 03-23-2012, 09:10 PM

Daniels is a coward and a moron.

'Nuff said.

**Diable** · 03-23-2012, 09:17 PM

I don't think anyone is going to think the police have a right to kick their door down and bust in with guns drawn. You could have your wife's body in the freezer downstairs and still not think the police had a legal justification to kick in your door.

**R-Star** · 03-23-2012, 09:17 PM

I hope this doesn't stop Eric Gordon from signing in Indy this summer.

**R-Star** · 03-23-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Diable

I don't think anyone is going to think the police have a right to kick their door down and bust in with guns drawn. You could have your wife's body in the freezer downstairs and still not think the police had a legal justification to kick in your door.

So, what exactly are you saying? The police aren't allowed to kick in anyones door?

**King Joseus** · 03-23-2012, 09:22 PM

I believe he's just saying that he's pretty sure everyone's going to be of the belief that the police have no business entering their homes. Basically, the loons who are gonna love this law are going to be approaching any attempts (reasonable or otherwise) by police to enter their homes as illegal.

**R-Star** · 03-23-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by King Joseus

I believe he's just saying that he's pretty sure everyone's going to be of the belief that the police have no business entering their homes. Basically, the loons who are gonna love this law are going to be approaching any attempts (reasonable or otherwise) by police to enter their homes as illegal.

I understand that. My belief is that those people should be shot in the head.

**Dornado** · 03-23-2012, 09:32 PM

I haven't read the actual statute or anything, but boy does this seem like a terrible idea.

**Prince** · 03-23-2012, 09:43 PM

Seems rather likely that someone is going to get carried away with this law. Shots fired and lawsuits galore.

e-monk · 03-24-2012, 07:30 AM

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Republican Governor Mitch Daniels has signed Senate Enrolled Act 1 into law in Indiana. The new law allows citizens to use deadly force against police officers they think are illegally entering their homes. Earlier this month, Addicting Info reported that the bill had passed the Senate. Republicans say the bill is designed to keep police safe, but Democrats say the bill will lead to the wanton killing of police officers.

why am I a democrat you ask? it's because I have a hard time listening to people tell me that authorizing the use of deadly force against someone is a way to 'keep them safe'

**Hyperion** · 03-24-2012, 08:51 AM

Wait, so tweakers can shoot cops now? This will end well.

**Gonzo** · 03-24-2012, 02:01 PM

Go Indiana! My man Mitch.

**E.H. Munro** · 03-24-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by King Joseus

I believe he's just saying that he's pretty sure everyone's going to be of the belief that the police have no business entering their homes. Basically, the loons who are gonna love this law are going to be approaching any attempts (reasonable or otherwise) by police to enter their homes as illegal.

Corey Maye begs to differ. It's actually a refreshing change to see legislators using common sense, there are times when self-defense is an entirely appropriate response when dealing with America's increasingly homicidal police forces.

Given that officers are given a pass for cold-blooded murder on the claims of "human error" then certainly civilians who find themselves in far more sympathetic situations should have the ability to cite justified self-defense.

03-23-2012, 08:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,887 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: Ind. Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Citizens To Use Deadly Force Against Police Officer I read 2 sentences. This just isn't a good idea. __________________

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Prince Formerly Known as Quite Frankly Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 22 Posts: 11,792 Rep Power: 4606109	Re: Ind. Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Citizens To Use Deadly Force Against Police Officer It doesn't make sense at all. __________________ 2032 KVBL Champions: Milwaukee Bucks (Prince) Lineup - PG D'Angelo McMillian \| SG Eddy Sweet \| SF Cameron Clothier \| PF Mario Rogic \| C Greg Hope \| 6th man C Andre Wright Finals MVP: Greg Hope 2033 KVBL Champions: Milwaukee Bucks (Prince) Lineup - PG D'Angelo McMillian \| SG Joseph McDaniels \| SF Cameron Clothier \| PF Mario Rogic \| C Greg Hope \| 6th man C Peter Acres Finals MVP: Greg Hope Fear the Deer Minnesota Timberwolves

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Ron Site Founder Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brea, California Posts: 14,562 Rep Power: 2734398	Re: Ind. Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Citizens To Use Deadly Force Against Police Officer Daniels is a coward and a moron. 'Nuff said.

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Diable Limehouse Blues Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,164 Rep Power: 14650805	Re: Ind. Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Citizens To Use Deadly Force Against Police Officer I don't think anyone is going to think the police have a right to kick their door down and bust in with guns drawn. You could have your wife's body in the freezer downstairs and still not think the police had a legal justification to kick in your door. __________________

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R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,887 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: Ind. Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Citizens To Use Deadly Force Against Police Officer I hope this doesn't stop Eric Gordon from signing in Indy this summer. __________________

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King Joseus Are You Ready Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,443 Rep Power: 9733001	Re: Ind. Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Citizens To Use Deadly Force Against Police Officer I believe he's just saying that he's pretty sure everyone's going to be of the belief that the police have no business entering their homes. Basically, the loons who are gonna love this law are going to be approaching any attempts (reasonable or otherwise) by police to enter their homes as illegal. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

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Dornado Community Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: WI Posts: 10,327 Rep Power: 10609190	Re: Ind. Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Citizens To Use Deadly Force Against Police Officer I haven't read the actual statute or anything, but boy does this seem like a terrible idea. __________________

03-23-2012, 09:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
Prince Formerly Known as Quite Frankly Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 22 Posts: 11,792 Rep Power: 4606109	Re: Ind. Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Citizens To Use Deadly Force Against Police Officer Seems rather likely that someone is going to get carried away with this law. Shots fired and lawsuits galore. __________________ 2032 KVBL Champions: Milwaukee Bucks (Prince) Lineup - PG D'Angelo McMillian \| SG Eddy Sweet \| SF Cameron Clothier \| PF Mario Rogic \| C Greg Hope \| 6th man C Andre Wright Finals MVP: Greg Hope 2033 KVBL Champions: Milwaukee Bucks (Prince) Lineup - PG D'Angelo McMillian \| SG Joseph McDaniels \| SF Cameron Clothier \| PF Mario Rogic \| C Greg Hope \| 6th man C Peter Acres Finals MVP: Greg Hope Fear the Deer Minnesota Timberwolves

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Gonzo King George Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Indiana Age: 22 Posts: 11,017 Rep Power: 15819679	Re: Ind. Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Citizens To Use Deadly Force Against Police Officer Go Indiana! My man Mitch. __________________

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