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**Prince** · 07-17-2012, 11:39 AM

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The Boy Scouts of America will keep their controversial policy banning gay scouts and leaders after a confidential two-year review, the organization said Tuesday.

The announcement comes amid a stepped-up campaign from activist groups urging an end to the membership guidelines.

The Boy Scouts convened a committee of 11 volunteers and professional leaders to decide whether the policy was still in the organization’s best interests after a resolution was put forward to reconsider it, the private group said in a statement that was first reported by The Associated Press. The nearly two-year-long review began in 2010.

They reached a unanimous consensus that it was the "best policy" for the BSA, Scouts' spokesman Deron Smith said in an email. That conclusion was shared at a February board meeting and recently reviewed by the officers of the board, he said.

“The committee included a diversity of perspectives and opinions. The review included forthright and candid conversation and extensive research and evaluations -- both from within Scouting and from outside the organization. The committee’s work and conclusion is that this policy reflects the beliefs and perspectives of the BSA’s members, thereby allowing Scouting to remain focused on its mission and the work it is doing to serve more youth,” the statement said.

The review was conducted confidentially "to allow the committee to make the best decision for the organization," Smith said.

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Nimreitz · 07-17-2012, 12:28 PM

Serious question, who joins the Boy Scouts in 2012? I thought it was idiotic in the early 90s and didn't do it.

**Diable** · 07-17-2012, 01:12 PM

This is their own business. It is probably the wisest course of action for them considering that much of their support comes from Churches and people who would not want their sons out in the woods with homosexuals. The people who would be upset about this don't matter as much as the people who'd be upset by the opposite course of action.

**Dornado** · 07-17-2012, 01:16 PM

Of course this won't actually stop gay people from being scout masters... just stop openly gay people from being scout masters.

I won't argue the legal point that the Boy Scouts are a private organization that can do what they want (though there is no real equivalent to the Boy Scouts that I'm aware of) but **** the BSoA, bigots.

**E.H. Munro** · 07-17-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimreitz

Serious question, who joins the Boy Scouts in 2012? I thought it was idiotic in the early 90s and didn't do it.

Jesus, my parents had to force me to go to Cub Scouts back in the 70s. Once it came time for the Boy Scouts I gladly dropped out.

**Luke** · 07-17-2012, 01:28 PM

I always thought it was the lamest thing in the entire world. People talk about how incredible being an eagle scout looks on a resume or whatever, and that's fine, but the few boy scouts that went to high school with me were ****ing weirdos. Any teenage boy that wants to dress up in little uniforms and play woodland critter games with a bunch of other socially awkward freaks is a weirdo.

Nimreitz · 07-17-2012, 01:39 PM

That's the truth.

MemphisX · 07-17-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dornado

Of course this won't actually stop gay people from being scout masters... just stop openly gay people from being scout masters.

I won't argue the legal point that the Boy Scouts are a private organization that can do what they want (though there is no real equivalent to the Boy Scouts that I'm aware of) but **** the BSoA, bigots.

Thinking homosexuality is wrong does notmake you any more of a bigot than thinking people opposed to it are wrong.

Nimreitz · 07-17-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MemphisX

Thinking homosexuality is wrong does notmake you any more of a bigot than thinking people opposed to it are wrong.

That makes no sense.

Thinking blacks are inferior does not make you any more of a racist than thinking white supremacists are wrong.

**Diable** · 07-17-2012, 03:56 PM

People can see homosexuality as a moral failure. A lot of people think it is a sin. You should go talk to some Baptists or pretty much anyone who reads the Bible and takes it literally.

Nimreitz · 07-17-2012, 04:06 PM

Slavery is condoned in the Bible too. People who abide by 2000 (+++++++ because Jesus doesn't mention gays) year old desert morals without any question are idiotic.

**Diable** · 07-17-2012, 04:30 PM

You are entitled to your opinion and other people are not? I think there is a basic failing to your logic. I personally don't care about gay people so long as they leave me alone. I can't stand people who hate people because they are gay, but I firmly believe that people have a right to their own sense of morality. You must think everyone is entitled to your sense of morality.

Nimreitz · 07-17-2012, 04:52 PM

They're completely entitled to their opinions, but I get to remind them that they are bigoted opinions.

**ChrisWoj** · 07-17-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

I always thought it was the lamest thing in the entire world. People talk about how incredible being an eagle scout looks on a resume or whatever, and that's fine, but the few boy scouts that went to high school with me were ****ing weirdos. Any teenage boy that wants to dress up in little uniforms and play woodland critter games with a bunch of other socially awkward freaks is a weirdo.

Keeping in mind I had no interest in being a scout after about the 4th grade... I will state that you have the Boy Scout level of things completely wrong. Obviously they do survival and camping events. But the primary focus is on community service and skill building. Maybe it is just my background doing education in an outdoor setting teaching ecology over the past few years - but the skills and talents of the few people I've worked with that were boy scouts were incredibly valuable. The ones that aren't "socially awkward freaks" take a lot of real world skills and have a level of networking ability that comes very naturally to them.

I regret not sticking with it, really. I had too little interest in anything other than sports when I was a kid, I'd rather go run or play basketball and football than go to a scout meeting. It could have benefitted me far more than doing those things did.

**Geaux Tigers** · 07-17-2012, 11:16 PM

I bet I win the weirdest boy scout experience (without being gay) award: I had two women for boy scout leaders, my best friend's mom and my mom. The other cub scout group in the small town we lived in was real tight on their shit. All marching in formation and learning what part of the scenery was edible, making fires and what not. We were always at my house or my friends moms house just having after school free time. One of the kids refused to wear the uniform and was always in a tie dyed shirt. One day we are playing Red Rover and my mom and my best friend are linked together. It's my mom's turn to call. She looks over at my friend and they somehow come to a mutual agreement to hold on tight and not let any mother****er pass no matter what or something. My mom calls out tie dyed shirt kid to come over and he comes prancing across and gets closelined and is unconscious on the ground for around 10 seconds.

Yeah I just broke an oath.

07-17-2012, 12:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nimreitz Legend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 29 Posts: 16,247 Rep Power: 14813408	Re: Boy Scouts: We're keeping policy banning gays Serious question, who joins the Boy Scouts in 2012? I thought it was idiotic in the early 90s and didn't do it.

07-17-2012, 01:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Diable Limehouse Blues Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,156 Rep Power: 14650805	Re: Boy Scouts: We're keeping policy banning gays This is their own business. It is probably the wisest course of action for them considering that much of their support comes from Churches and people who would not want their sons out in the woods with homosexuals. The people who would be upset about this don't matter as much as the people who'd be upset by the opposite course of action. __________________

07-17-2012, 01:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dornado Community Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: WI Posts: 10,312 Rep Power: 10609190	Re: Boy Scouts: We're keeping policy banning gays Of course this won't actually stop gay people from being scout masters... just stop openly gay people from being scout masters. I won't argue the legal point that the Boy Scouts are a private organization that can do what they want (though there is no real equivalent to the Boy Scouts that I'm aware of) but **** the BSoA, bigots. __________________

07-17-2012, 01:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,875 Rep Power: 4300832	Re: Boy Scouts: We're keeping policy banning gays I always thought it was the lamest thing in the entire world. People talk about how incredible being an eagle scout looks on a resume or whatever, and that's fine, but the few boy scouts that went to high school with me were **ing weirdos. Any teenage boy that wants to dress up in little uniforms and play woodland critter games with a bunch of other socially awkward freaks is a weirdo. __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice**

07-17-2012, 01:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Nimreitz Legend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 29 Posts: 16,247 Rep Power: 14813408	Re: Boy Scouts: We're keeping policy banning gays That's the truth.

07-17-2012, 03:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Diable Limehouse Blues Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,156 Rep Power: 14650805	Re: Boy Scouts: We're keeping policy banning gays People can see homosexuality as a moral failure. A lot of people think it is a sin. You should go talk to some Baptists or pretty much anyone who reads the Bible and takes it literally. __________________

07-17-2012, 04:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nimreitz Legend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 29 Posts: 16,247 Rep Power: 14813408	Re: Boy Scouts: We're keeping policy banning gays Slavery is condoned in the Bible too. People who abide by 2000 (+++++++ because Jesus doesn't mention gays) year old desert morals without any question are idiotic.

07-17-2012, 04:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
Diable Limehouse Blues Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,156 Rep Power: 14650805	Re: Boy Scouts: We're keeping policy banning gays You are entitled to your opinion and other people are not? I think there is a basic failing to your logic. I personally don't care about gay people so long as they leave me alone. I can't stand people who hate people because they are gay, but I firmly believe that people have a right to their own sense of morality. You must think everyone is entitled to your sense of morality. __________________

07-17-2012, 04:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
Nimreitz Legend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 29 Posts: 16,247 Rep Power: 14813408	Re: Boy Scouts: We're keeping policy banning gays They're completely entitled to their opinions, but I get to remind them that they are bigoted opinions.

07-17-2012, 11:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
Geaux Tigers Wheres the gameclock in this place? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Louisiana Age: 28 Posts: 12,608 Rep Power: 12100097	Re: Boy Scouts: We're keeping policy banning gays I bet I win the weirdest boy scout experience (without being gay) award: I had two women for boy scout leaders, my best friend's mom and my mom. The other cub scout group in the small town we lived in was real tight on their shit. All marching in formation and learning what part of the scenery was edible, making fires and what not. We were always at my house or my friends moms house just having after school free time. One of the kids refused to wear the uniform and was always in a tie dyed shirt. One day we are playing Red Rover and my mom and my best friend are linked together. It's my mom's turn to call. She looks over at my friend and they somehow come to a mutual agreement to hold on tight and not let any mother****er pass no matter what or something. My mom calls out tie dyed shirt kid to come over and he comes prancing across and gets closelined and is unconscious on the ground for around 10 seconds. Yeah I just broke an oath. __________________ "Louisiana has a heritage of great players that play their high school football within the boundaries of Louisiana." "As soon as we know exactly who we are playing and what date we will be playing on, the schedule will become more finite." "If we're defending, come see the trophy, it's in our trophy case. We're not defending it; it's there." - Les Miles

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