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Old 08-19-2012, 10:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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re: Diplomatic furry as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange

Sex by surprise or unexpected sex? Hey Ecuador...got room for one more?
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so what's he scared of?
The fact that he had "unexpected sex" with Swedish women and that sex without a notarized contract, environmental impact study, and a local permit (complete with inspection) is a felony in Sweden?
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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re: Diplomatic furry as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange

He didn't use a condom. Despite not being like "okay then stop we aren't having sex" the women were like "cool cool" and then days later said the condom was removed without their consent.
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re: Diplomatic furry as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange

I'm just not hearing any logical excuses for this guy being afraid to face a trial in Sweden. You make fun of the charges, but he's acting as though he's been sent to Iran to be charged with a capital offense. Make all the jokes you want about the charge, then explain why this guy is afraid to face a joke of a charge in a Swedish court.

If you can. I get the feeling that none of you are able to do that, even to your own satisfaction.
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re: Diplomatic furry as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange

has the US even filed charges against Assange and/or wiki-leaks? I know there was discussion of it a couple years back but not sure if anything official ever occured

also not sure what charges would be levelled that could both a) lead to enforceable extradition and b) stick in open court
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re: Diplomatic furry as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange

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I'm just not hearing any logical excuses for this guy being afraid to face a trial in Sweden. You make fun of the charges, but he's acting as though he's been sent to Iran to be charged with a capital offense. Make all the jokes you want about the charge, then explain why this guy is afraid to face a joke of a charge in a Swedish court.

If you can. I get the feeling that none of you are able to do that, even to your own satisfaction.
So you're saying he's probably worried about extradition to the USA, not this charge, right? I agree with you.
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re: Diplomatic furry as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange

How does he get extradited to the US? How does he get extradited to US in Sweden for something that he could not be far more easily extradited to the US in the United Kingdom?

You guys are making nonsensical defenses of this. Are you claiming that he has paranoid schizophrenia? If he does not then you are all full of crap. Assange probably can not be charged with anything we could hope to extradite him on. Australia might be able to charge him with treason if they so choose. We might charge him with a couple of things perhaps, but not anything that would put him in any legal jeopardy unless he was caught in US territory.

How does he get extradited to the US? And I don't mean in some paranoid left wing fantasy either. Name a realistic charge could practically cause him to be extradited from Sweden to US.
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
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left wing fantasy is interesting - are all those anti-government, nwo, militia folks in idaho left wingers?
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:54 PM   #24 (permalink)
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re: Diplomatic furry as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange

After reading the wiki on his crimes, the dude's guilty as shit for being a creepout rapist.
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re: Diplomatic furry as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange

well he has spent the last 17 months appealing and fighting the extradition orders and lost at every turn so yeah, probably

or this is just some masterfully complicated plot by the US DoJ to somehow get him out of the UK who would never assist them in extraditing him to the states to the much friendlier Sweden who of course will just as soon as any charges whatsoever get filed that would require said extradition

or no maybe he's just a scum bag rapist wrapping himself up in a nice noble cover story that has no merits
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gee that 'Russian sluts' bit isnt a red flag regarding your source or anything is it? fyi zakayev is the prime minister of the unrecognized country of chechen and during his exile the british court actually litigated the extradition request but rejected it on lack of evidence - rule of law 1 russians 0 (and the russians arent exactly reliable narrators)
You might not like the terms used in the article or that fact it's from a russian source, but I must say I see double standards myself. And not just in those cases mentioned in the article, there's more. In the last few days the UK was threatening they might try to arrest Assange even if he stays inside the embassy. Now think about this. If this had been the Syrians or North Koreans threatening to do the same to some western embassy in Pyongyang/Damascus, people would go crazy. People would also have been up in arms if China tried to arrest Chen Guangchen during his daring escape from house arrest (to the US embassy in China) few months ago.

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So you're saying he's probably worried about extradition to the USA, not this charge, right? I agree with you.
Exactly. Everybody knows that WikiLeaks revealed the arrogance, hypocrisy, and opportunism of USA foreign policy (not just USA, though) and some well known politicians as Hillary Clinton. So the whole "rape" case could be easily seen as a way to silence WikiLeaks and punish the main guy. Besides, Assange was never given any assurances by Sweden that there would be no extradition to a third country.
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You might not like the terms used in the article or that fact it's from a russian source, but I must say I see double standards myself.
Assange is not a political dissident fleeing persecution, he's a scum bag rapist trying to avoid prosecution
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re: Diplomatic furry as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange

Actually, he isn't a "rapist". He had "unexpected sex". And there certainly is a double standard here as the UK has been sabre rattling Iran over their lack of respect of the UK's Tehran embassy.
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Actually, he isn't a "rapist". He had "unexpected sex". And there certainly is a double standard here as the UK has been sabre rattling Iran over their lack of respect of the UK's Tehran embassy.
one of the women told him to stop, he kept going - that's rape, go ahead and tell your sister, wife, daughter whoever you like, otherwise
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Actually, he isn't a "rapist". He had "unexpected sex". And there certainly is a double standard here as the UK has been sabre rattling Iran over their lack of respect of the UK's Tehran embassy.
Good points. Besides, he has also not been charged, he has NOT been found guilty. The proceedings against him were in regards to his extradition to Sweden for questioning only. As far as I'm concerned Assange offered to answer those questions via a video/phone link to Sweden. He even offered to go to Sweden to do the interview in person - but only if the Swedish Government would promise not to extradite him to the US. Yet the Swedish Government won't make any promises. Finally, the man hasn’t even been charged with anything yet the UK wants to bust into embassies and take him by force - don't you people find it a bit strange? All those things make me think the whole fuzz was meant to generate negative propaganda and manipulate public opinion. In short, they're trying to discredit Assange and Wikileaks. Using the good old 'killing the messenger' method.
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