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Old 09-18-2012, 09:01 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I agree with everything he said.

Look after yourselves instead of always having your hand out for help from the government you lazy ****s.
How much did you pay for your baby in the hospital when your wife delivered?

As for the 47%, he's referring to democrats that are not going to vote for Romney. He's a uniter, not a divider. It's funny that there are so many that feel that the government is being ruined by the handouts to the poor like food stamps ($115 billion last year was spent on giving food to the poor) and welfare like Medicaid (50% goes to kids, 15% to mentally retarded, 10% to elderly and the rest to those greedy do nothings making less than $18k a year in a family of 4) but want to increase the insane $900 billion a year spending on defense. We're spending more than $50 billion a year on missiles for the military.
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Is there really anything in this that team, red doesn't say openly anyway? Isn't the 47% thing hammered away at nightly on Faux Noos? I mean, far from shocking, I'm wondering what Romney's saying here that his cheerleaders haven't been repeating for years.
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Is there really anything in this that team, red doesn't say openly anyway? Isn't the 47% thing hammered away at nightly on Faux Noos? I mean, far from shocking, I'm wondering what Romney's saying here that his cheerleaders haven't been repeating for years.
Yeah, consider me unshocked. Also, I'm getting annoyed by people not taking these comments in context... he's obviously talking to campaign supporters about how to campaign, not how he is going to govern. The guy is an asshole, but he was basically just reading a few pages out of the republican playbook.
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You can mark my prediction now: A secret recording from a closed-door Mitt Romney fundraiser, released today by David Corn at Mother Jones, has killed Mitt Romney's campaign for president.

On the tape, Romney explains that his electoral strategy involves writing off nearly half the country as unmoveable Obama voters. As Romney explains, 47 percent of Americans "believe that they are victims." He laments: "I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

So what's the upshot? "My job is not to worry about those people," he says. He also notes, describing President Obama's base, "These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax."

This is an utter disaster for Romney.
Read the rest here: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-election.html

Its not that he said its with the election just a handful of weeks away every Cable News/Late Night Show/Twitter/Facebook/Opinion piece(like the one i linked) is gonna be feeding off of this. This is just a horrible time for something like this to happen for Romney Campaign

He wasnt gonna win anyways since he cant connect with the average voter but still
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Great article. I'd seen that one too. The man keeps talking trash about bailouts yet it appears he's been paid out pretty good. Twice.
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How much did you pay for your baby in the hospital when your wife delivered?

As for the 47%, he's referring to democrats that are not going to vote for Romney. He's a uniter, not a divider. It's funny that there are so many that feel that the government is being ruined by the handouts to the poor like food stamps ($115 billion last year was spent on giving food to the poor) and welfare like Medicaid (50% goes to kids, 15% to mentally retarded, 10% to elderly and the rest to those greedy do nothings making less than $18k a year in a family of 4) but want to increase the insane $900 billion a year spending on defense. We're spending more than $50 billion a year on missiles for the military.
How much? Uncalculable. But much more than any American has paid. Seeing as I've paid 10's of thousands of dollars in tax year after year and have had my child delivered, and stopped in emergency once to have my pneumonia diagnosed.


The poor deserve help. The destitute and hungry deserve a meal. Until they stop trying to work and better themselves. At that point they should be thrown in a dumpster and let to starve to death. People fall on hard times, and giving a helping hand is fine. But when people come to expect and even demand that help, and become accustomed to having free subsistence without having to work, they need to be cut off.

A person being lazy is not your responsibility. 1 hour of your work day should not go to earning money to pay for the honey boo boo's of the world.


Obviously there's circumstances with mental and physical illness, and in those cases I support 100% that they are well taken care of, but that is a very small number of what we're discussing here.
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Re: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters

I hear this nearly every single day from someone at the bar. Its really not that shocking. But I know for a fact that there is a healthy percentage of the population that his criticism applies too and you are naive if you dont think so. He shouldnt paint such broad brush strokes, and its most certainly going to come out racist no matter how he tries to slice it.
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Most of these comments don't surprise me coming from a Republican candidate. His biggest problem is that not everyone who doesn't pay taxes is an Obama supporter. There are independents and Libertarian types who didn't pay taxes b/c of exemptions and have now been insulted by Romney. By assuming they were all Obama supporters and implying that they are lazy, he might lose potential supporters to Obama, while other would-be Romney voters may opt to stay home.

The Latino comment was a poor joke and the other comments...meh.
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I agree with everything he said.

Look after yourselves instead of always having your hand out for help from the government you lazy ****s.
You live in a country with national health care....that's really the 'handout' in question.

Raising taxes for the wealthy? That's not a handout to the 47%. Look at wage growth between classes historically. It's all good for the top percentage to grow their wages at a rate much higher than everyone else, and then experience taxes that put much, much more in their pockets while those in the lower brackets have to work longer hours and take on more jobs. Handouts for the rich in the form of deep tax cuts are a-ok, but anything else is not?
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Is there really anything in this that team, red doesn't say openly anyway? Isn't the 47% thing hammered away at nightly on Faux Noos? I mean, far from shocking, I'm wondering what Romney's saying here that his cheerleaders haven't been repeating for years.
Munro, it's common sense. Hearing it from the peanut gallery is one thing, but from the man who could be President?
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Knicks fans, can you imagine what Jennings is going to do to you? He’s gonna be slicing through that defense like V for Vendetta. Then, after the game, he’s gonna slice through security and find Donnie Walsh and stab him in the damn heart.

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Funny because the states that take the most in welfare are also the red states that will be voting for him.
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Funny because the states that take the most in welfare are also the red states that will be voting for him.
Republicans despise their christian right base. They've done a good job pretending like they care about God and making these idiots think that THEY are the good, decent, tax paying Americans that Romney is talking about. "I work! Taxes come out of my check! Ain't talking about me!" Yes he is, and you're on Medicaid.
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How much? Uncalculable. But much more than any American has paid. Seeing as I've paid 10's of thousands of dollars in tax year after year and have had my child delivered, and stopped in emergency once to have my pneumonia diagnosed.
Seeing as you have no idea how much americans pay for health care here. If you were to roll health insurance into a form of tax here then it would be about $4000 a year for a family to have insurance. For the average family, that's 10% of their income. Half of it post tax dollars. So its probably closer to 13-14% of their income goes to health care assuming median household incomes. Add that to the 30% Fed tax, 7.5% Medicare tax ( your company pays the other 7.5% while self employed pay 15%), 1.5% Social Security, 6-10% state tax and you're at 55-63% of their income going away. It costs up to $20k to have a baby here in the US. If you want maternity coverage, it's 400 a month just for the mom

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the problem with this logic is who gets to decide who has "earned" their help? The guy who works two minimum wage jobs because that's all he's qualified for and only brings in a paltry $400 a week to feed his wife and two kids should only get one or two meals and then sent packing?

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The problem with this logic is that you inherently label anyone poor as lazy. While there are many loafers out there, the vast majority are people who just struggle to live. It's really sad when you see how beaten down these people are. When they pick up groceries so their kids can eat a decent meal they can't make eye contact with any of the volunteers there because they know that they are failing their family.

Then there are people who are stuck on welfare. Yes stuck on it. If they were to get a job, they would lose all benefits. that means insurance, monthly food stamps, and direct financial aid. There are jobs that work with welfare, nicknamed workfare, but for every dollar you earn there, you lose a dollar in your monthly check. Seems fair, but then you forget that it's a minimum wage job and they get taxed on that income and it's probably across town or a two hour bus ride each way. So they have less money, no free time and feel crappy about themselves because they're working but can't even support themselves.


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Obviously there's circumstances with mental and physical illness, and in those cases I support 100% that they are well taken care of, but that is a very small number of what we're discussing here.
Yes, hiring staff to take care of these indigent individuals for 24hour a day care in a nursing home is very inexpensive. They never injure themselves or have horrible personal hygiene leading to them getting sick all the time but can't communicate that until they are in dire straights. Children and the disabled take up most of Medicaid expenses along with pregnant poor women. Are you saying that poor kids shouldn't get at least one meal a day through subsidized lunch programs or have access to medical care?
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**** Romney. What kind of president only cares about 53% of his country? What a ****ing dickhead.
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