Nimreitz

You should have learned something after elementary school. The greatest? Are you serious? We still use the electoral college. We have a 2 party system. In the Senate 2 people represent Wyoming and also 2 people represent California.

Geaux Tigers

Allow me to introduce you to the House of Representatives. Agree on the other two though.

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Mr. Hobbes

Of course it's the best. Where's better?

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Geaux Tigers

What do you guys think of a format in which the President or executive writes the legislation and the Congress executes it?

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"Louisiana has a heritage of great players that play their high school football within the boundaries of Louisiana."

"As soon as we know exactly who we are playing and what date we will be playing on, the schedule will become more finite."

"If we're defending, come see the trophy, it's in our trophy case. We're not defending it; it's there."

- Les Miles

Mr. Hobbes

If Congress has vetoing power, nothing will ever get done.

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Nimreitz

There are several systems that are a lot like ours which do not use the electoral college and have several active and important parties. Most of South America, specifically Brazil, for example. Our constitution was written in 1787, the oldest surviving written constitution in the world, why in hell would it be the best? And this is going to be blasphemy in the USA, but France has a better system.

R-Star

So does Canada. We have 3 or 4 options every election, and they actually differ and aren't as similar as American candidates are every year,

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R-Star

You never are right though, are you?

That's the point of you being called out all the time.

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E.H. Munro

I was thinking it was more like this game

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Ron

I am not sure what this means.

Philly barely squeaked by with an overtime win in the first game, then the Lakers barely beat Philly in game 2, and the rest of the games in Philly were blow-outs.

Not sure how you are relating debates to those Finals. Then again, I am purposely tuning out on the debates. It's all shit.

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Ron

The electoral college is a ****ing joke. It's all a game...talking about "swing" states and such.

Popular vote should be the only way to elect a president. Then maybe we might see a campaigner or two in California, for Christ's sake.

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If everyone loves you you're doing it wrong.

"Opium is the religion of the masses." Fred Reed

The Power of 99 Press

"He thinks it's going to be fun being governor. It's only fun being governor of New York if you have money to spend, and I spent it all." Nelson Rockefeller on his successor, Hugh Carey.

e-monk

yep electoral college is a joke, 2 party system is a joke, senate distribution is a joke (2 senators representing 1 million people who live in Rhodes Island = same voting weight as 2 senators representing 37 million people in California)

but I will not sit here and listen to you bad mouth the United States of America! (storms out of thread)

E.H. Munro

It's not a joke as the purpose of the senate was to represent the interest of the individual state governments. It's why, powerwise, the Senate's the junior partner in the legislative branch (as well as the reason that Senators were appointed by state legislatures). The enumerated powers are vested mostly in the House which is tasked with representing the interests of the voters.

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If everyone loves you you're doing it wrong.

"Opium is the religion of the masses." Fred Reed

The Power of 99 Press

"He thinks it's going to be fun being governor. It's only fun being governor of New York if you have money to spend, and I spent it all." Nelson Rockefeller on his successor, Hugh Carey.

e-monk

yeah, its' a joke as long as the senate can kill or otherwise exercise power over legislation and the historic reasons for the the way the senate is set up are not sufficient that it (or for that matter the electoral college) should continue to function the way it does

and dont get me started on simple vs super-majority issues either