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Old 11-05-2012, 08:00 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:12 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Who are you voting for?

People who cry out that both choices are simply bullshit, and that they're indifferent to whomever reaches office; are you aware of the differences they actually entail? Change doesn't occur 'overnight', and it never has. Historical progression has always been, is, and always will be one event leading into another. Action, reaction. The "smoke & mirrors" of politics has always existed, and that's the inherent competitiveness and duplicity required to actually achieve office. You can't just play to your base. You have to appeal. Don't hate the player, hate the game. If anything, hate the media. Hate the fact that the average American (and therefore, an incredibly large portion of America) has not properly realized themselves enough to make an educated decision. Instead, they'd rather be entertained by a media which possesses an objective in their own right, which plays to the fact that a lot of people in this country are comfortable with having their mind made up for them.
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Re: Who are you voting for?

Gary Johnson.

I will never vote for a president that subsidizes certain sectors of ag, outlaws marijuana and hemp, utilizes predator drones, spreads propaganda to allow public tolerance of invading Iran or supports the NDAA.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:39 PM   #34 (permalink)
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You're not in Virginia are you?
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:06 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Politics make me sick, but having a Mormon president would be pretty screwy.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:08 PM   #37 (permalink)
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..because discarding sovereign, centralized leadership would do wonders for our relations abroad
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:48 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Re: Who are you voting for?

final polling numbers since i know you all will just love it...And it paints a interesting picture

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* OHIO: Obama 49%, Romney 44% (SurveyUSA)
* OHIO: Obama 50%, Romney 49% (Univ. of Cincinnati)
* OHIO: Obama 49%, Romney 48% (Gravis)
* OHIO: Obama 49%, Romney 49% (Rasmussen)
* FLORIDA: Obama 50%, Romney 49% (Public Policy)
* FLORIDA: Obama 49%, Romney 49% (Gravis)
* VIRGINIA: Obama 48%, Romney 47% (NBC/WSJ)
* VIRGINIA: Romney 50%, Obama 48% (Rasmussen)
* COLORADO: Obama 52%, Romney 47% (Public Policy)
* COLORADO: Obama 50%, Romney 46% (Keating)
* NEVADA: Obama 51%, Romney 47% (Public Policy)
* NEW HAMPSHIRE: Obama 50%, Romney 46% (New England College)
* NEW HAMPSHIRE: Obama 51%, Romney 48% (WMUR)
* NEW HAMPSHIRE: Obama 50%, Romney 48% (Rasmussen)
* NORTH CAROLINA: Obama 49%, Romney 49% (Public Policy)

* OHIO AVG: Obama +3.0%
* IOWA AVG: Obama +2.3%
* WISCONSIN AVG: Obama +5.3%
* NEVADA AVG: Obama +4.7%
* COLORADO AVG: Obama +2.8%
* VIRGINIA AVG: Obama +1.8%
* FLORIDA AVG: Romney +1.5%
* NORTH CAROLINA AVG: Romney +1.2%
* NEW HAMPSHIRE AVG: Obama +2.8%


* NATIONAL: Obama 50%, Romney 45% (RAND)
* NATIONAL: Obama 50%, Romney 47% (ABC/Washington Post)
* NATIONAL: Obama 50%, Romney 47% Pew Research)
* NATIONAL: Obama 50%, Romney 48% (Public Policy)
* NATIONAL: Obama 49%, Romney 47% (UPI)
* NATIONAL: Obama 48%, Romney 46% (Reuters)
* NATIONAL: Obama 49%, Romney 48% (Gallup RV)
* NATIONAL: Obama 48%, Romney 47% (NBC/WSJ)
* NATIONAL: Obama 48%, Romney 48% (SurveyUSA)
* NATIONAL: Romney 49%, Obama 48% (Rasmussen)
* NATIONAL: Romney 49%, Obama 48% (Gallup LV)

* NATIONAL AVG: Obama +1.0%

* OBAMA APPROVAL RATING: 52% Approve, 45% Disapprove (Gallup)


* 538 STATISTICAL FORECAST: Obama 315.3, Romney 222.7
* VOTAMATIC STATISTICAL FORECAST: Obama 326, Romney 212
* SAM WANG STATISTICAL FORECAST: Obama 310, Romney 228
* DeSART/HOLBROOK STATISTICAL FORECAST: Obama 281, Romney 257

* REALCLEARPOLITICS POLLING AVERAGES: Obama 303, Romney 235
* POLLTRACKER POLLING AVERAGES: Obama 303, Romney 235
* POLLSTER POLLING AVERAGES: Obama 303, Romney 235
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..because discarding sovereign, centralized leadership would do wonders for our relations abroad
That's about the same as pissing every other country off in one way or other which we seem to take care of just fine.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:59 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Re: Who are you voting for?

No, there's a very clear, drastic distinction between the two. But there are a lot of countries we've pissed off in our history as a nation, this is true. As for who offers the better foreign relationships between Obama and Romney -- that should also be clear, as other nations have opined.
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The lesser of two evils. I'm going to the polls tomorrow, but the president is one item I'm not voting for.
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That which they define as evil, is generally not the source of evil. If one's looking for evil they can find it in every corner.
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Voting for Obama.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:25 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Re: Who are you voting for?

I don't wanna vote for people based on their headshots, but there's like 40 people running for positions. Looking thru the Voter's Pamphlet and judging them, I gotta say half these guys look like assholes. Some of them are downright terrifying.

The AG position is a law clerk vs. a Federal Prosecutor/DoJ/Counter-Terrorism Violent crime unit sweet mother of mercy. Another position is run by a Democrat lady who has a daughter I went to school with, vs a soccer coach wearing a cowboy hat.

I ended up voting for Batman a bunch of times.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:43 PM   #45 (permalink)
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The AG position is a law clerk vs. a Federal Prosecutor/DoJ/Counter-Terrorism Violent crime unit sweet mother of mercy.
For the record, "law clerk" is a very rangy term. It can mean "intern at a rinky dink firm" and it can mean "did all the work for a United States Supreme Court Justice". In the case of Bob Ferguson, it's much closer to the latter (For the 8th US Circuit Court of Appeals... he was probably then rejected by SCOTUS, but SCOTUS clerkships are essentially impossible to get no matter who you are, and if you get one your legal career is set for life).
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