Nimreitz

Employee wages obviously affect pricing. Minimal increases in wages do not substantively affect food prices at Walmart. I didn't try to dump anything into your lap, and $3 to $8 was a hypothetical example of a wage increase that would probably not affect prices much or at all at Walmart despite looking substantive.

Dornado

What makes you think there's a ton of flexibility in hours at wal-mart? Maybe a lack of hours...

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Diable

At the end of the day the workers are probably out of work for a period of time and then they come right back under better conditions. You guys are arguing about stuff that only matters to the dogmatic. A bakery worker has a set of skills that is valuable, there is a bakery operation which is valuable. The company itself is not valuable because a bunch of Wall Street types have driven it into the ground.

At some point someone will put up a new sign and hire back the same people under some set of terms that they agree to (through the Union) and they'll start running this entire operation for a completely different bunch of Wall street suits who may or not allow their greed to destroy it all again.The people are valuable, as is the means of production. You need both in order to succeed. You do not need all of that bullshit. It just doesn't lead anywhere.

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Marcus13

Yeah, R-Star was trippin actin like all of these jobs are meaningless and unskilled.

I bet you couldn't drive 14 hours a day for two weeks straight like some of those unskilled truck drivers do.

Probably couldn't even suffer through a nine hour work day in the dead of summer baking at the Twinkie factory

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Diable

Maybe you should read up on the regulations governing the driving of trucks in this country. Anything over 11 hours is illegal and has been for some time. It happens still, because it's not always practical to obey the letter of the law, however it isn't legal.

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R-Star

If every minimum wage worker at Walmart was making your hypothetical $3 and it all the sudden almost tripled to $8, it not only would cause prices in the store to rise, but some workers would be laid off.

Its completely mind blowing to say otherwise. It was a dumb example, if you're ok to admit that I'm fine. Happens to everyone.

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R-Star

..... I drive 6-12 hours to get up to work to start a shift, and then work 12 hour days for at least 2 weeks at a time.

That's 84 hour work weeks and I don't get to come home at night.


Want to try again?

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R-Star

Yep. They have their hour books they need to keep, but most operations push their workers to cook the books.

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Nimreitz

It wasn't "every minimum wage worker at Walmart" it was "the guy shoveling shit".

R-Star

Who shovels shit at Walmart? The whole idea of someone shoveling shit is to describe a bottom of the barrel, unskilled worker/laborer. Which is exactly what someone working at Walmart is.

Again, you're the one who brought up Walmart in that post as well, if you'd like to look back and see.

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Nimreitz

You brought up Walmart first in this post that specifically talks about the guy shoveling shit's wages affecting the prices at Walmart.

But I'm done with this. I don't know why I ever bother, you don't read and even if you're wrong you just double down on your original stance.

R-Star

haha.... yea. You're right. Walmart almost tripling salaries for "people who shovel shit" wouldn't change anything.



I'm being sarcastic of course. Its an ignorant thing to say, and now you rely on classic and played out attacks to try to step out.



Like I said before, good work Nim.

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Jamel Irief

If you believe the Hostess CEO's story that the company closing is a direct result of a union strike, you should probably think twice. The company has apparently been underwater for almost a decade, and had planned to give the top executives raises of up to 80% a couple years ago. Piss poor management is the only logical explanation for this company going out of business, and I'll prove it to you right now:
HOSTESS IS A COMPANY THAT SELLS PRODUCTS LOADED WITH SUGAR AND FAT TO AMERICANS. If you can't take the candy from that baby, you deserve to fail.

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E.H. Munro

The correct answer is "All of the above". Bad management, high /transaction costs and debt killed them. The name brands with any value will be bought up by other companies, who will make the products at their own facilities and most of these guys are going to spend the next 99 weeks collecting unemployment checks.

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