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Old 12-21-2012, 09:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Why isn't there a cop at every school? It's not as though school hours are high crime times.
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Why isn't there a cop at every school? It's not as though school hours are high crime times.
You'd need multiple officers in every school for any sort of effectiveness. Once it's just part of the day-to-day that there's a police officer in every school they're the first place a shooter's going to go(if there's just one of them), and it would be incredibly easy to get the drop on a single officer with all the comings and goings during a school day.
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Why isn't there a cop at every school? It's not as though school hours are high crime times.
Even if there was, its highly doubtful that would have made a difference in Newtown. I would imagine someone hell-bent on conducting such a carnage would be able to escape a cop's attention in order to do what he/she wanted to do.
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You'd need multiple officers in every school for any sort of effectiveness. Once it's just part of the day-to-day that there's a police officer in every school they're the first place a shooter's going to go(if there's just one of them), and it would be incredibly easy to get the drop on a single officer with all the comings and goings during a school day.
California put its National Guard on a number of street corners during the 1992 riots. L.A. was the safest place on Earth for a number of days at that time (I can't remember how long they were deployed). Crime went way, way down, no doubt frustrating all the trash that wanted to knock over a liquor store in order to get cash for drugs.

It would be ****ing awesome to have that kind of manpower continuously, but one would have to fear a police state would emerge. However, this is all speculation, of course, because the tax money needed to engage such an enforcement process permanently would be extremely prohibitive.

If people wanted it bad enough, it could be done. But its a catch-22 also: the increased security decreases total crime, then politicians get involved and say we don't need the increased security, and relax standards...then another event happens again to start the vicious cycle all over again.
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Re: Connecticut massacre thrusts Michigan gun bills — and tea party — into spotlight

I'd guess you're talking about something that would cost at least 35 billion dollars Nationally. I read that someone estimated that it would be 10 billion in California. Googling it says that the median salary for a police officer is 50K. I'm guessing you'd probably stick the rookies out to watch the kindergartens, but still there must be a couple hundred schools in area I live in. This here says there were slightly less than 100 thousand schools in the USA a few years ago, so that is going to come out to 40 billion in salary and salary isn't going to be the only expense. You'll have overhead and since it's a bureaucracy there's going to be a lot.
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Re: Connecticut massacre thrusts Michigan gun bills — and tea party — into spotlight

so um with cuts in education spending endemic across the country who is going to pay for this barney fife with a gun? (which I suppose Barney Fife did pack so is a redundant formulation)
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It would be ****ing awesome to have that kind of manpower continuously, but one would have to fear a police state would emerge. However, this is all speculation, of course, because the tax money needed to engage such an enforcement process permanently would be extremely prohibitive.
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yes, it would be totally awesome to live in a police state...
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hey by the way do you know what school had an armed sheriff's deputy on duty? columbine
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yes, it would be totally awesome to live in a police state...
I think you misquoted me.

I don't know if you experienced it or not, but that was the safest period of time Los Angeles citizenry ever experienced.

Now, as I surmised, it wasn't in effect long enough to see what a prolonged time period such procedures in place would engender. My speculation that it would spawn a police state is a natural conclusion, however.
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Re: Connecticut massacre thrusts Michigan gun bills — and tea party — into spotlight

You can put cops everywhere like Israel, or you can start restricting gun sales. One of those options is cheaper.
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Re: Connecticut massacre thrusts Michigan gun bills — and tea party — into spotlight

NRA chief: If putting armed police in schools is crazy, 'then call me crazy'

I can't stomach this ****ing psychopath's complete interview.

Actually, I am shocked this ****ing moron still heads the NRA.

Surely there must be some right-thinking NRA members who can unseat this guy and then advance a meaningful dialogue into gun violence? I mean, he quoted that the NRA has 4 million members. Out of 4 million members I would think they can one at least.
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