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Ban Assault Rifles 8 33.33%
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:25 AM   #136 (permalink)
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It seems people want to act like we are dealing with reasonable individuals. Someone who is hell bent on killing a mass amount of people in this day and age will find a way to do so. America was born and bred on violence. This country has been violent from day 1 and taking away guns from people will not change anything not even the degree of violence. Glory killers will just find a way to blow something up.

Asking why do Americans need semi-automatics is game playing. You can ask similar questions about anything. Why do the sell cars that can exceed any legal posted speed limit?
And the easier it is (grabbing an assault rifle as opposed to constructing a bomb which may or may not work) the more likely they are to do it, and succeed... which is sort of the point.

I think you're way off if you think reducing access to guns wouldn't help... we're no more or less violent than many of the other cultures around the world. We just make it really easy for our bozos to do something about it.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:42 AM   #137 (permalink)
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And the easier it is (grabbing an assault rifle as opposed to constructing a bomb which may or may not work) the more likely they are to do it, and succeed... which is sort of the point.

I think you're way off if you think reducing access to guns wouldn't help... we're no more or less violent than many of the other cultures around the world. We just make it really easy for our bozos to do something about it.
Agreed. It would be like a country that sells heroin at 7/11 and argues that's not the reason they have more junkies than anywhere else in the world.
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And the easier it is (grabbing an assault rifle as opposed to constructing a bomb which may or may not work) the more likely they are to do it, and succeed... which is sort of the point.

I think you're way off if you think reducing access to guns wouldn't help... we're no more or less violent than many of the other cultures around the world. We just make it really easy for our bozos to do something about it.
I am of the mind that we shouldn't infringe on the rights of millions because of what 4 or 5 lunatics will or will not do.
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I am of the mind that we shouldn't infringe on the rights of millions because of what 4 or 5 lunatics will or will not do.
Exactly. How many cell phones have killed people because of their use by people driving cars. Ban cell phones? ban cars? Stupid people to very bad things sometimes.
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Exactly. How many cell phones have killed people because of their use by people driving cars. Ban cell phones? ban cars? Stupid people to very bad things sometimes.
How the **** is that a good comparison?
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How the **** is that a good comparison?
Because cell phones and cars are also specifically designed inflict pain and suffering and/or death upon others...duh.
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Because cell phones and cars are also specifically designed inflict pain and suffering and/or death upon others...duh.
Shit. I forgot about that.
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How the **** is that a good comparison?
You are blaming guns, I am blaming cell phones and automobiles. None of the three by themselves do any harm to anyone. It only when people use them that they can hurt anyone.


What about a knife? They don't hurt anyone by themselves. They can when a stupid person wants them to. Or a baseball bat. Or poison. Or whatever. It is not the object, it is the person behind the object.
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I am of the mind that we shouldn't infringe on the rights of millions because of what 4 or 5 lunatics will or will not do.
I mean.....do you have a right to posses any gun that exists or will exist?
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You are blaming guns, I am blaming cell phones and automobiles. None of the three by themselves do any harm to anyone. It only when people use them that they can hurt anyone.


What about a knife? They don't hurt anyone by themselves. They can when a stupid person wants them to. Or a baseball bat. Or poison. Or whatever. It is not the object, it is the person behind the object.
Well, at least where I live, using cell phones and automobiles in conjunction is banned and there are restrictions on the availability of poisons to Joe Public. There is legislation restricting the availability or use of the things that you listed.

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You are blaming guns, I am blaming cell phones and automobiles. None of the three by themselves do any harm to anyone. It only when people use them that they can hurt anyone.


What about a knife? They don't hurt anyone by themselves. They can when a stupid person wants them to. Or a baseball bat. Or poison. Or whatever. It is not the object, it is the person behind the object.
You do understand the majority of the world has banned driving and talking on your cell right?
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You do understand the majority of the world has banned driving and talking on your cell right?
And they banned alcohol during prohibition. But alcohol flourished. You can ban guns forever, but they will never be done away with. And bad people will always find away.

Yes, laws against driving and cell phone use. But it continues and always will because of stupid people.

Can we ban stupid?
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And they banned alcohol during prohibition. But alcohol flourished. You can ban guns forever, but they will never be done away with. And bad people will always find away.

Yes, laws against driving and cell phone use. But it continues and always will because of stupid people.

Can we ban stupid?
And the people who break that law get tickets.


You're doing a terrible job here.
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And the people who break that law get tickets.


You're doing a terrible job here.
How nice, they get tickets if they get caught. Meanwhile they are maiming and killing people everyday. Facts and logic trump someones 'terrible' job.
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How nice, they get tickets if they get caught. Meanwhile they are maiming and killing people everyday. Facts and logic trump someones 'terrible' job.
So are you advocating an outright ban on cell phones and/or cars, mandatory jail terms, or just an end to all attempts to curb the use of the two in unison because some people don't pay attention to the law?
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