Originally Posted by MemphisX

It seems people want to act like we are dealing with reasonable individuals. Someone who is hell bent on killing a mass amount of people in this day and age will find a way to do so. America was born and bred on violence. This country has been violent from day 1 and taking away guns from people will not change anything not even the degree of violence. Glory killers will just find a way to blow something up.

Asking why do Americans need semi-automatics is game playing. You can ask similar questions about anything. Why do the sell cars that can exceed any legal posted speed limit?

Originally Posted by Dornado

And the easier it is (grabbing an assault rifle as opposed to constructing a bomb which may or may not work) the more likely they are to do it, and succeed... which is sort of the point.

I think you're way off if you think reducing access to guns wouldn't help... we're no more or less violent than many of the other cultures around the world. We just make it really easy for our bozos to do something about it.

Originally Posted by Dornado

And the easier it is (grabbing an assault rifle as opposed to constructing a bomb which may or may not work) the more likely they are to do it, and succeed... which is sort of the point.

I think you're way off if you think reducing access to guns wouldn't help... we're no more or less violent than many of the other cultures around the world. We just make it really easy for our bozos to do something about it.

Originally Posted by MemphisX

I am of the mind that we shouldn't infringe on the rights of millions because of what 4 or 5 lunatics will or will not do.

Originally Posted by joek

Exactly. How many cell phones have killed people because of their use by people driving cars. Ban cell phones? ban cars? Stupid people to very bad things sometimes.

Originally Posted by R-Star

How the **** is that a good comparison?

Originally Posted by agoo101284

Because cell phones and cars are also specifically designed inflict pain and suffering and/or death upon others...duh.

Originally Posted by R-Star

How the **** is that a good comparison?

Originally Posted by MemphisX

I am of the mind that we shouldn't infringe on the rights of millions because of what 4 or 5 lunatics will or will not do.

Originally Posted by joek

You are blaming guns, I am blaming cell phones and automobiles. None of the three by themselves do any harm to anyone. It only when people use them that they can hurt anyone.


What about a knife? They don't hurt anyone by themselves. They can when a stupid person wants them to. Or a baseball bat. Or poison. Or whatever. It is not the object, it is the person behind the object.

Originally Posted by joek

You are blaming guns, I am blaming cell phones and automobiles. None of the three by themselves do any harm to anyone. It only when people use them that they can hurt anyone.


What about a knife? They don't hurt anyone by themselves. They can when a stupid person wants them to. Or a baseball bat. Or poison. Or whatever. It is not the object, it is the person behind the object.

Originally Posted by R-Star

You do understand the majority of the world has banned driving and talking on your cell right?

Originally Posted by joek

And they banned alcohol during prohibition. But alcohol flourished. You can ban guns forever, but they will never be done away with. And bad people will always find away.

Yes, laws against driving and cell phone use. But it continues and always will because of stupid people.

Can we ban stupid?

Originally Posted by R-Star

And the people who break that law get tickets.


You're doing a terrible job here.

Originally Posted by joek

How nice, they get tickets if they get caught. Meanwhile they are maiming and killing people everyday. Facts and logic trump someones 'terrible' job.