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Old 01-17-2013, 09:23 AM   #166 (permalink)
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If you're buying a gun for home defense, you're paranoid. Unless you live in an area where home break-ins is common place and people are walking about strung out on drugs, a home break-in while you're home is a rarity. They'll just steal your gun while they're stealing your tv, couch and hi fi while you're at work.
Tell that falsity to the mother and two young daughters in Georgia who just last week had an intruder break into their home while they where in it. Fortunately the mom had a gun and emptied on the intruder, saving her and her daughters.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:51 PM   #168 (permalink)
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Legislation will make it harder for the firearms industry to sell some newer/bigger products as well as reduce volume, and will be an inconvenience to some recreational shooters who want guns that are very high-powered or designed for military applications. Considering that banning pistols, revolvers, and shotguns isn't even being mentioned in any of the legitimate gun control debates nationally, the proposed legislation won't make it any harder for the average person to defend themselves or their families. That's another thing someone lied to you about.
Yes, some pistols and shotguns have more than a 10 shot clip. Oh and it never stops. See the next round of gun grabbers will have make a grander gesture..."Why do you need clips with more than 5 rounds?", "Why can't you use revolvers and single shot, shot guns?"

I am just wondering where this stops, see I like to look at things in a less selfish, "in my lifetime sort of way". To do so, I ask myself, if they erode and restrict rights at the same right during my son's life as they have during my life, where will this country be when my grandson is of age?

Despite all the laws and erosion of rights during my life time, the quality of life for the average American has DECREASED due to these laws that were enacted to help us by both parties. To sit there and watch a President sign 23 executive orders into law and nobody bats an eye about that is disturbing considering the language of the NDAA. Maybe sports, reality shows and video games keep Americans from connecting the dots, however, it won't always be a guy in the Presidency whose views you agree with but he will still retain all the powers that you have allowed your guy.

In other words, all it takes is the right fool in office, the right congress and the perfect emergency situation to turn this country inside out with the stroke of a pen.
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Yes, some pistols and shotguns have more than a 10 shot clip. Oh and it never stops. See the next round of gun grabbers will have make a grander gesture..."Why do you need clips with more than 5 rounds?", "Why can't you use revolvers and single shot, shot guns?"

I am just wondering where this stops, see I like to look at things in a less selfish, "in my lifetime sort of way". To do so, I ask myself, if they erode and restrict rights at the same right during my son's life as they have during my life, where will this country be when my grandson is of age?

Despite all the laws and erosion of rights during my life time, the quality of life for the average American has DECREASED due to these laws that were enacted to help us by both parties. To sit there and watch a President sign 23 executive orders into law and nobody bats an eye about that is disturbing considering the language of the NDAA. Maybe sports, reality shows and video games keep Americans from connecting the dots, however, it won't always be a guy in the Presidency whose views you agree with but he will still retain all the powers that you have allowed your guy.

In other words, all it takes is the right fool in office, the right congress and the perfect emergency situation to turn this country inside out with the stroke of a pen.
Here here. Well stated and absolutely right. Might I add, the right does not want to destroy America, but the left does.
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Despite all the laws and erosion of rights during my life time, the quality of life for the average American has DECREASED due to these laws that were enacted to help us by both parties.
Are we still talking about legislation pertaining to guns at this point or are you talking about the modernization of the globe? Because it sounds like you've changed topics.
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Here here. Well stated and absolutely right. Might I add, the right does not want to destroy America, but the left does.
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Here here. Well stated and absolutely right. Might I add, the right does not want to destroy America, but the left does.
the right is more concerned about re-election than they are serving the country, that much is painfully clear (playing hostage with the economy, thwarting legislation etc)

worse, the right's vision of what america is and can be is such a twisted and perverted version and so far from what the founding fathers envisioned that even if the right was seriously trying to govern they'd only make things worse and destroy what is special about the idea of america
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The right also wants to treat "minorities" as second class citizens.
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The right also wants to treat "minorities" as second class citizens.
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the right is more concerned about re-election than they are serving the country, that much is painfully clear (playing hostage with the economy, thwarting legislation etc)

worse, the right's vision of what america is and can be is such a twisted and perverted version and so far from what the founding fathers envisioned that even if the right was seriously trying to govern they'd only make things worse and destroy what is special about the idea of america
We all have opinions. Mine being everything stated above is patently false and a product of what most people deem as "the dumbing down of America."
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We all have opinions. Mine being everything stated above is patently false and a product of what most people deem as "the dumbing down of America."
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Thomas Jefferson would have you thrown out of Monticello - he would consider you poorly educated and ignorant and he would revile your attitudes and so called opinions - the very idea of you would sew doubt in Jefferson's mind as to the efficacy of his thoughts on representative government. you are everything bad that he built fail-safes into the system to defend against. Ben Franklin on the other hand would simply ridicule you mercilessly and lampoon you in print not necessarily expecting you to understand the joke but content that you had served to help the general citizenry be more self aware. burr on the other hand would probably just shoot you (that's not true, you'd totally be beneath burr's notice).

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(CNN) – Republican Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey skewered the National Rifle Association Thursday for referencing the president's children in a political attack commercial.

Speaking in a press conference, the outspoken governor decried the move as "reprehensible" and argued the group lost some credibility by making the ad.

"And I think for any of us who are public figures, you see that kind of ad and you cringe. You cringe because it's just not appropriate in my view to do that," he said. "They've got real issues to debate on this topic. Get to the real issues. Don't be dragging peoples' children into this. It's wrong."

Video of his comments were posted on the governor's official YouTube page.

The NRA ad, which blasts President Obama as an "elitist hypocrite," asks why he opposes the idea of placing armed guards in every school–a proposal pushed by the NRA–despite the fact that his own children attend a school with similar security.

"Are the president's kids more important than yours?" a narrator says in the 30-second ad. "Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools, when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school."

Released Tuesday night, the ad only airs on the Sportsman Channel, but has gained strong media attention, both on the airwaves and online.

Christie, a father of four, said the commercial went too far.

"My children had no choice realistically in what I've decided to do with my career and what effect that's had on their lives," he said. "The president doesn't have a choice and his children don't have a choice of whether they're going to be protected or not. The reality is our lives in American society don't lead to that, and I think it's awful to bring public figures' children into the political debate. They don't deserve to be there."

Defending the ad, NRA President David Keene said Wednesday on CNN that the ad wasn't specifically about Obama's two daughters, but about all children who attend schools with private security.

"What we're talking about is folks who have protection for their own children…and then pooh-pooh the idea that the average American's children shouldn't have the same sort of protection," he said on "The Situation Room."

Christie's comments will no doubt spark some criticism from certain conservative circles that chided him for appearing too close to Obama in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy, which destroyed large chunks of the New Jersey shoreline. The two appeared together to survey the damage, and Obama was the subject of high praise from Christie.

While Christie has spoken out in the gun control debate, he has yet to take a firm stance on either side, saying rather the country should have a discussion about a comprehensive set of solutions rather than focusing solely on guns.

But the governor, considered to be a potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate, pulled no punches in expressing his thoughts about the NRA's actions, adding that such a move "demeans them."
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Here here. Well stated and absolutely right. Might I add, the right does not want to destroy America, but the left does.
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