[STOMP]

Seems that some of the raping/killing stories that were being relayed as fact by media and gov't officials were anything but...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...&sn=004&sc=595

STOMP

[Talkhard]

It's Bush's fault . . .

[sa1177]

Seems that some of the raping/killing stories that were being relayed as fact by media and gov't officials were anything but...

Please to not say you think these stories are not true...if so then explain to me why a friend of mine was raped not two hours after she left a red Cross shelter? Agreed they were exaggerated, but I think we also must remember some of them did actually occur.

As for my friend she is luckily doing well, been moved with her son to a hotel in Minnesota owned by one of her close friends. They are putting her and her son up indefinetly. I am suprised they say there ar no reports of rape because i know she reported it. She was from a small town 25 miles NW of NO so maybe that's why.

Frankly I think all this is a great example of how self serving and horrid the American media is. Whatever the easiest story is, is the one they print. Headline, Headlines, Headlines...

I don't buy this article anymore then I buy the report that all these atrocities were occurring..if you can skew it one way you can certainly skew it the other.

[SodaPopinski]

Originally Posted by STOMP

Seems that some of the raping/killing stories that were being relayed as fact by media and gov't officials were anything but...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...&sn=004&sc=595

STOMP

What's your point? That it wasn't a tragedy since some of the chaos was exaggerated? BFD. The media constantly overexaggerates things to pull in ratings.

The fact remains that all levels of government failed miserably in the response and relief efforts, especially the feds.

-Pop

[Schilly]

Originally Posted by SodaPopinski

What's your point? That it wasn't a tragedy since some of the chaos was exaggerated? BFD. The media constantly overexaggerates things to pull in ratings.

The fact remains that all levels of government failed miserably in the response and relief efforts, especially the feds.

-Pop

I think the point is that it was grossly exaggerated...I had heard via media that as many as 200 people had been found dead at the Convention Center, most of which had been murdered. This is now proving to not be the case.

Undoubtedly people were in fact killed (apparently 2) and without an doubt people were in fact raped. Al the article is saying is no one reported to officials any rapes which isn't too unusual as most rapes go unreported.

The article is simply beign responsible and reporting that the initial reports were exaggerated which IMO should be a touch comforting to think that other humans didn't run as rampantly crazy as initially suggested.

Thanks for the Article STOMP and sall I hope things are going well for your friend.

[SodaPopinski]

Originally Posted by Schilly

I think the point is that it was grossly exaggerated...I had heard via media that as many as 200 people had been found dead at the Convention Center, most of which had been murdered. This is now proving to not be the case.

Undoubtedly people were in fact killed (apparently 2) and without an doubt people were in fact raped. Al the article is saying is no one reported to officials any rapes which isn't too unusual as most rapes go unreported.

The article is simply beign responsible and reporting that the initial reports were exaggerated which IMO should be a touch comforting to think that other humans didn't run as rampantly crazy as initially suggested.

Thanks for the Article STOMP and sall I hope things are going well for your friend.

Comforting that many of the travesties that reportedly happened actually didn't? Yes.

Reason for the feds to say their screw-up wasn't as bad? No.

-Pop

[Schilly]

Originally Posted by SodaPopinski

Comforting that many of the travesties that reportedly happened actually didn't? Yes.

Reason for the feds to say their screw-up wasn't as bad? No.

-Pop

There was disaster and fowl up at just about ever level on this one...I am hoping that all involved learned their lessons, but we know they didn't, but at this point I will assume those in the position of power have.

[STOMP]

Originally Posted by SodaPopinski

Comforting that many of the travesties that reportedly happened actually didn't? Yes.

Reason for the feds to say their screw-up wasn't as bad? No.

I think the Feds deserve plenty of blame for their screw ups regarding Katrina, but I don't think they (or anyone else) deserve blame for things that didn't happen.

My reasoning for posting this article was that I found it informative... nothing more.

STOMP

[BealzeeBob]

For me, this article means that I can disregard ANYTHING said by that clown posing as the mayor of NO. He was on camera saying that those people have been in that freak'n Superdome for five days now, looking at dead bodies, with people being murdered and raped. I saw a report, where a reporter was in the Superdome during that time, and he said he didn't see any of that happening. The commander of the National Guard said that no major crimes were reported to his people.

Couple the mayor's dumb ramblings with his doom and gloom estimate of 10,000 dead in NO, when the number is much closer to 1,000, and I just tune out when he has anything to say.

Mostly, as noted above, I feel relieved that things were much better than what was reported. The reports of the rapes and murders painted a sad, and scary, picture of human nature.

Go Blazers

[RoseCity]

Sadly, on the national news last evening, they had on a Nurse who worked at a rape crisis center in N.O. and she said the center had lots of women coming in. I take what the media, Mayor.etc say with a grain of salt, the Nurse who treated these women meanwhile deserves to have her point taken seriously. I believe she worked at a shelter outside of N.O...

[Ed O]

One of the most interesting, and sad, parts of this is that I think some people believed that horrible things were happening because of the skin color of the NO residents.

It's easier for some people to think that african americans will treat one another less humanely than whites. It's sad and it's pathetic but I think that it's true that some people feel that way.

I was not in NO, and I don't know anyone who was. I'm sure that terrible things happened in NO because (a) terrible things happen in big cities every day, (b) terrible things happen in NO at a higher rate than many big cities, (c) the flooding disrupted peoples' lives and (d) the governmental response (at ALL levels) left a lot of people vulnerable and exposed.

I had serious reservations about the reports of the scale of the NO horrors--the 10,000 figure thrown out by the mayor was one I never took seriously and I was charitably forgiving it as an off-the-cuff remark--but it is frustrating at this point that so many criticisms of Bush and the response as a whole were based on exaggerated or nonexistent crimes and tragedies. There's more than enough to blame Bush and other governmental entities for without latching on to race-inspired chicken little stories.

Of course, whatever frustrations I feel are more than outweighed by my relief over the apparent fact that so many of these horrible reports were incorrect.

Ed O.