[barfo]

Originally Posted by MARIS61

Most of what he c&p's is quotes of people who HAVE personally examined scientific and historical evidence, are in a position to speak with some authority on the subject, or personally witnessed events related to it. Some of them have access to evidence we don't. Some of them have seen classified data on the subject. Many of them have taken an oath to serve and defend our country from both attack and treason. Many of them have credibility beyond repute.

Even if that were true, which it, um, isn't, everything you said applies much more to the people who are on the other side.

I'm amazed how few posters are aware of the sheer magnitude of lies by the Administration (if their lips are moving...) being exposed and the groundswell of Americans snowballing toward a face-off with what they view as a treasonous Administration.

Sure. I'll bet there is such a groundswell, the current administration will be driven from office in about a year. To be replaced by another administration which you'll have similar issues with, I'd bet.

When and where do you envision this face-off happening? I sure don't hear about it, but maybe that's because downtown Portland is such a hot-bed of Bush supporters.

barfo

[Dan]

I'm still confused how an administration who was in office for barely even 9 months, could have pulled this off so easily (apparently).

[dudleysghost]

Originally Posted by Hap

I'm still confused how an administration who was in office for barely even 9 months, could have pulled this off so easily (apparently).

They are criminal masterminds. The whole incompetence thing is just one prolonged brilliant act to cover up the 9/11 conspiracy. Do not misunderestimate this administration.

[barfo]

Originally Posted by dudleysghost

Do not misunderestimate this administration.

Even today, few realize that "My Pet Goat" is an anagram for the President's Secret Service name, "Empty Toga".

barfo

[ryanjend22]

there is no option for "us government allowed attacks to occur" to push a middle east agenda. that, to be honest, has a substantial amount of circumstantial evidence to back it up.

and it is what i believe to entirely plausible.

[maxiep]

I'd just like to add that it takes a very particular kind of personality to believe the Federal Government was behind 9/11 as their first impression.

[Yega1979]

It was not my first impression. It never entered my mind that it could have been an inside job until I gave honest consideration to the evidence and arguments of the 9-11 truth movement.

For those out there who are really interested in seeking the truth, wherever it may lead, it is important for you to allow yourself to go through a personal paradigm shift. There are vast amounts of well documented examples of government sponsored false flag terror operations commited by the United States, and other Western Governments.

For example, it's openly admitted that our CIA murdered innocent women and children in Iran, in order to blame in on Mossadeq to get him out of power. It's also openly admitted in a Joint Cheifs of Staff memo that they proposed to stage terror acts to trump up support for an invasion of Cuba in the 60's. Google the USS Liberty. Lyndon Johnson made a back door deal with Isreal to have them sink it, blame it on Egypt in order to get US into the war. Two admirals from the air craft carrier that the Liberty called for help have testified that Johnson specifically told them to "call back the birds, I want that g-damn ship at the bottom".

With this being the case, how can you sit there and say it's so outlandish that they would carry out 9-11? Have they shown themselves to have a high regard for human life? What are your feelings based on? They are based on an infantile instinct to want to trust those in authority over you.

[MARIS61]

Originally Posted by maxiep

I'd just like to add that it takes a very particular kind of personality to believe the Federal Government was behind 9/11 as their first impression.

I don't think that was anyone's first impression. But when they looked at the evidence, it changed their impression. Why are so many afraid, or at least stubbornly reluctant, to look?

BTW, don't you think it takes a very particular kind of Government for so many of it's citizens to believe it was behind an attack on them?

[Masbee]

Originally Posted by barfo

Even today, few realize that "My Pet Goat" is an anagram for the President's Secret Service name, "Empty Toga".

barfo

The President's original Secret Service name (many moons ago when he was the son of a president) was......

Tumbler.

A Dean Martin salute to those who can guess why.

[ProudBFan]

Personally, I am just sick of seeing the whole topic discussed here.

Don't make the mistake of equating that statement to a desire to hide my head in the sand about it. I am just SICK of seeing thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread about it. We should just rename this "Portland Off-Topic Forum" to something like "Yega's Personal Crusade To Prove 9/11 Was An Inside Job Forum".

E-freaking-nough already. Merge all the damn 9/11 threads into one. It would be the longest single thread ever on BBF.com (which is what I suspect Yega has been aiming for all along anyway).

My $0.01 (after taxes).

PBF

[Masbee]

Originally Posted by Yega1979

It was not my first impression. It never entered my mind that it could have been an inside job until I gave honest consideration to the evidence and arguments of the 9-11 truth movement.

For those out there who are really interested in seeking the truth, wherever it may lead, it is important for you to allow yourself to go through a personal paradigm shift.

Here is a paradigm shift that you will eventually experience:

Regardless of the truth of the situation, I never could and never will be able to do anything about it, so to obsess over that which I have little or no control is at best a waste of time and at worst... well, let's not go there.

[MARIS61]

Originally Posted by Masbee

Here is a paradigm shift that you will eventually experience:

Regardless of the truth of the situation, I never could and never will be able to do anything about it, so to obsess over that which I have little or no control is at best a waste of time and at worst... well, let's not go there.

Sad that you feel so impotent. I knew a guy in high school who didn't even let out a peep when some Seniors locked him in his locker.

I'm guessing you're much younger than I and haven't been around long enough to witness what Americans can accomplish when they've had enough. Most haven't reached the breaking point yet but when they do, well, find yourself a safe vantage point and you'll see things you'll never forget.

[Ed O]

Originally Posted by MARIS61

I'm guessing you're much younger than I and haven't been around long enough to witness what Americans can accomplish when they've had enough. Most haven't reached the breaking point yet but when they do, well, find yourself a safe vantage point and you'll see things you'll never forget.

You have to be around to understand what Americans can accomplish?

I suppose I've wasted weeks and weeks reading history, then, huh?

What have Americans accomplished that is of the magnitude that you are discussing?

Ed O.