[cpawfan]

Originally Posted by Yega1979

"Credibility" is in the mind of the beholder isn't it. Instead of contributing these worthless, "He is right because I believe him, you are wrong because I don't believe you" posts, why not try and refute something I say cp?

Come on, use the brain god gave you and do some real thinking. It will feel good.

I have submitted to you all Operation Northwoods, a declassified document where they play to carry out acts of terror to trump up support for an invasion of Cuba. This proves, that we have had leaders in our nation's recent history that have at least seriously planned false flag terror.

I have successfully refuted plenty of your BS in previous threads, but have realized that it is a complete waste of my time as you have either failed to comprehend or blatantly ignored what I posted. Such an ego and arrogance you have to believe that people aren't refuting you because they can't.

Also, Wikipedia isn't a reliable source

[stockfire]

Yega ignores most of my posts because Prison Planet hasn't "written" articles to refute them.

[It's_GO_Time]

Originally Posted by stockfire

Yega ignores most of my posts because Prison Planet hasn't "written" articles to refute them.

Either that or your posts get deleated by the mods before he can read them.

[Hector]

Yega's opponents in this thread are Krstic (Communication Asst. for BBB), stockfire (no known job with BBB), and cpawfan (Community Moderator with BBB). Why do conservatives rise to the top of every organization? Why don't BBB's management include at least a smattering of pro-conspiracy types? What is the exact job of a Communication Asst. who claims expertise in matters of secrecy, and is strongly against critics of the U.S. government? It's pretty easy for such a computer expert to trace where every poster is, in order to compile some government list...

Originally Posted by Yega1979

1963- CIA recruits Iraqi Baath Party (including a young Saddam Hussein) to assasinate the new leader, Abdul-Karim Kassem. After the coup, the CIA gave the Baath a long list of communists and others to liquidate...

1965- CIA provokes a coup that leads to the overthrow of Indonesian leader Sukarno, who is replaced by General Suharto. In the following weeks between 500,000 and one million people are murdered by death squads using lists provided by US State Department.

[Yega1979]

Originally Posted by cpawfan

I have successfully refuted plenty of your BS in previous threads, but have realized that it is a complete waste of my time as you have either failed to comprehend or blatantly ignored what I posted. Such an ego and arrogance you have to believe that people aren't refuting you because they can't.

Also, Wikipedia isn't a reliable source

CP,

Are you trying to assert that the Operation Northwoods document is not authentic? It was at one time posted on CIA's own website.

Here's a link to the actual document that I've posted before:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20...northwoods.pdf

Here's an ABCNews story on it:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662


Sorry, you cannot get around this issue. It's not a matter of weather or not this kind of activity is "feasible" or "crazy", it's a simple matter of how much blind trust you have in the scruples of those in power.

[stockfire]

Originally Posted by Yega1979

CP,

Are you trying to assert that the Operation Northwoods document is not authentic? It was at one time posted on CIA's own website.

Here's a link to the actual document that I've posted before:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20...northwoods.pdf

Here's an ABCNews story on it:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662


Sorry, you cannot get around this issue. It's not a matter of weather or not this kind of activity is "feasible" or "crazy", it's a simple matter of how much blind trust you have in the scruples of those in power.

No, it's just irrelevant. Part of the delusion of CTers is their belief that everything (every question, "mystery", event) is perfectly connected together by their theory. The truth is that life is more chaotic and random then that, but the vanity of CTers doesn't allow them to see it. To those people, everything is explained with a singular, grand, sweeping theory.

I read all those things when that was the flavor of the month, you seem to get to the CT trends rather late Yega. If anything, your "unwavering knowledge" of this subject proves how big of a n00b you are in the entire CT scene.

[Ed O]

Originally Posted by Kiss_My_Darius

Why?

You make a quick blanket statement saying yega doesn't know what he is talking about and yega responds either I don't or you (and the general public) doesn't.

Makes sense to me and seemed like an appropriate response to your post . . .

Yega makes a lot of claims. His "proof" is a combination of cut and paste jobs and "common sense".

I don't know much about the history of international terrorism. I don't know much about laws of thermodynamics and physics and other stuff.

But what I DO know stuff about (e.g., economics) Yega has displayed jarring ignorance of. That, along with his confidence about everything he types, indicates to me that he, really, knows quite little about anything that he comments on, and when he claims that everyone OTHER than him is living in ignorance? That's weak.

Ed O.

[Yega1979]

Originally Posted by stockfire

No, it's just irrelevant. Part of the delusion of CTers is their belief that everything (every question, "mystery", event) is perfectly connected together by their theory. The truth is that life is more chaotic and random then that, but the vanity of CTers doesn't allow them to see it. To those people, everything is explained with a singular, grand, sweeping theory.

I read all those things when that was the flavor of the month, you seem to get to the CT trends rather late Yega. If anything, your "unwavering knowledge" of this subject proves how big of a n00b you are in the entire CT scene.

Irrelevant? The fact that the Joint Chiefs of Staff actually proposed staging false flag terror attacks to trump up support for a war with Cuba is "irrelevant" to the original point of my post, that the US engages in false flag terror as well.

I guess how a chef's food tastes is "irrelevant" to how good his food tastes. That is essentially what you said.

What is "irrelevant" is how long this information has been out. It was an important point. To mention that is just bizaare. If you wonder why I usually don't respond to you, it's because your statements and arguments are just so lame they are not worth responding to.

[barfo]

It's irrelevant because it didn't actually happen. Yes, they may very well have *considered* doing it, but they didn't *actually* do it. There is a big difference, and the fact that the government once considered doing something does not in any way prove or even suggest that the government is currently engaging in some other, vaguely related, action.

The government considers doing a great many things (universal health care, gay bombs, mars missions). Lots of the things that are considered at some level of government never happen.

Northwoods is irrelevant.

barfo

[Yega1979]

Originally Posted by barfo

It's irrelevant because it didn't actually happen. Yes, they may very well have *considered* doing it, but they didn't *actually* do it. There is a big difference, and the fact that the government once considered doing something does not in any way prove or even suggest that the government is currently engaging in some other, vaguely related, action.

The government considers doing a great many things (universal health care, gay bombs, mars missions). Lots of the things that are considered at some level of government never happen.

Northwoods is irrelevant.

barfo

I'll try one more time, because I can't break it down for you any simpler Barfo.

First of all, I never said that Operation Northwoods itself *proved* any other conspiracy theory, so that is a complete strawman.

What operation northwoods PROVES as I said, as they they at least considered and drafted actual documented plans on paper to carry out such actions. It proves a mindset. This would be akin to a man on trial for raping and murdering a child, and his defense lawyer and friends make the claim that this is impossible, this man was a perfect angel and the accusations are ridiculas.

But the police find his diary in his own hand writing where he is talking about his urges to do so and writes plans to commit such an act. Now are you going to sit there and say that is irrelevant?? That is about the by god most stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life. I can't even continue to discuss this issue in the face of such lunacy!

[Cinco de Mayo]

[stockfire]

Originally Posted by Yega1979

I'll try one more time, because I can't break it down for you any simpler Barfo.

First of all, I never said that Operation Northwoods itself *proved* any other conspiracy theory, so that is a complete strawman.

What operation northwoods PROVES as I said, as they they at least considered and drafted actual documented plans on paper to carry out such actions. It proves a mindset. This would be akin to a man on trial for raping and murdering a child, and his defense lawyer and friends make the claim that this is impossible, this man was a perfect angel and the accusations are ridiculas.

But the police find his diary in his own hand writing where he is talking about his urges to do so and writes plans to commit such an act. Now are you going to sit there and say that is irrelevant?? That is about the by god most stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life. I can't even continue to discuss this issue in the face of such lunacy!

why is it that anytime you are wrong, you turn your arguments into "comparative analogies" in which you describe a scene that is so far from "equivalent" that it's painful to read.

please, quit discussing the issue. you look worse and worse with each post you make.

..uh, it's like if a man raped a woman and then the man made double rape with stolen crutches from a 1 legged kid and poked out the eyes of the elderly while not covering his heart during the national anthem. see! that's an argument, totally. i win.