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04-16-2008, 04:46 PM
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Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/a...n_torture.html
What I would want to do is to have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the information that's already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. I can't prejudge that because we don't have access to all the material right now. I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated. You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve.
So this is an area where I would want to exercise judgment -- I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General -- having pursued, having looked at what's out there right now -- are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies. And I think it's important-- one of the things we've got to figure out in our political culture generally is distinguishing betyween really dumb policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity. You know, I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I've said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue because I think that impeachment is something that should be reserved for exceptional circumstances. Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law -- and I think that's roughly how I would look at it.
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04-20-2008, 11:08 AM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
That seems like a very thoughtful and practical answer, of the kind that our political system seems to ignore, to our detriment.
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04-20-2008, 11:13 AM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
That elitist.
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04-20-2008, 02:21 PM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
Keep dreaming, Obama. The closest you'll ever get to the White House is going there to paint it.
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04-20-2008, 03:31 PM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
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Keep dreaming, Obama. The closest you'll ever get to the White House is going there to paint it.
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Considering that African slaves were used to build the white house, I am not sure if this is a racial dig or just a silly comment.
Regardless, your fear of Obama is pretty funny. I mean we have lived through 8 years of the worst president ever, well at least most of us did. I can think of 3,000 on 9-11 that died due to his lack of interest in national security, and thousands more that have died as a result of decisions.
McGrandaddy is more of the same, takes money from the same people. I also think Clinton would be a disaster. It's Obama, or the total destruction of the United States as we know it.
I kinda consider you a terrorist Talkhard, because you appear to be for the destruction of the United States rule of law and foundation.
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04-20-2008, 03:37 PM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
He only said it to rile people up.
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04-20-2008, 04:34 PM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
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He only said it to rile people up.
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Oh so he REALLY hates America?
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04-20-2008, 04:43 PM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
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Oh so he REALLY hates America?
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Yep. All conservatives do.
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04-20-2008, 06:46 PM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
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It's Obama, or the total destruction of the United States as we know it.
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Well, you're on the right track. Linking Obama and "the total destruction of the United States" in the same sentence makes a lot of sense. The guy is a Marxist who hangs around with former terrorists like William Ayers, who was responsible for bombing the Pentagon, the Capitol building, and a police dept. in NYC in the early 70's. And Obama's pastor for the last 20 years is a guy who rages against the U.S. government and thinks it tried to kill black people with the AIDS virus. Obama is steeped in anti-American sentiment and I wouldn't put him anywhere near the Oval Office, even as a joke.
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04-20-2008, 09:26 PM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
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Obama is steeped in anti-American sentiment and I wouldn't put him anywhere near the Oval Office, even as a joke.
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Who are you to determine what is American and what is anti-American? Senator McCarthy thought he was a good judge of that, and ended up being run out of Washington.
Did you also call Obama a Marxist, too? It just proves my point of how little these comments add to the political discourse, especially when we won the Cold War in 1991 and there are no Marxists left to be your boogie men.
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04-20-2008, 09:26 PM
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I wouldn't put him anywhere near the Oval Office, even as a joke.
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You are aware that isn't something you're really in charge of right?
Love it or leave it...
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04-20-2008, 09:33 PM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
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You are aware that isn't something you're really in charge of right?
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That is obvious from the way I framed my statement. I guess you just had to vent, though, right?
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04-20-2008, 09:41 PM
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Re: Obama for looking into prosecuting war crimes
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Who are you to determine what is American and what is anti-American?
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Gee, I thought this was a forum where we all got to state our opinions. Did they change the rules?
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Did you also call Obama a Marxist, too? It just proves my point of how little these comments add to the political discourse, especially when we won the Cold War in 1991 and there are no Marxists left to be your boogie men.
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Are you familiar with black liberation theology? It's what Obama's church is based on and it's heavily Marxist. On the church website they object to the "economic mal-distribution" in America and rail against becoming "middle class" in their thinking. It's basically Marxism dressed up as "theology."
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04-21-2008, 01:54 PM
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