Reply

Old 05-12-2008, 06:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
Yega1979
Star
 
Yega1979's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Oregon
Age: 100
Posts: 2,699
Credits: 13,322.92
Rep Power: 702787 Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute
US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

THE **** IS COMING DOWN FOLKS!!!!!

A pastor gave a talk to a group of boy scouts at a college in Texas, in his talk, he told them to learn the constitution and the bill of rights, and he spoke against the US Patriot Act.

He got called into the university president's office(who was shaking like a leaf), and two men from the department of Homeland Security threatened to charge him with terrorism and espinoge if he didn't cease and desist.

This **** is real! This is not Communist Russia, this is not Nazi German, this is the USA!

http://www.infowars.com/?p=2086


Listen to the interview posted at the bottom of the page!!
__________________
"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Goering, Nazi leader
Yega1979 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 05-12-2008, 07:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
R-Star
My Life Is Awesome
 
R-Star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Edmonton
Age: 25
Posts: 16,457
Credits: 63,898.32
Rep Power: 16510923 R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

Would be easier to stomach without your hippie talk.
R-Star is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2008, 07:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
Yega1979
Star
 
Yega1979's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Oregon
Age: 100
Posts: 2,699
Credits: 13,322.92
Rep Power: 702787 Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute Yega1979 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

Quote:
Originally Posted by R-Star View Post
Would be easier to stomach without your hippie talk.
I'm sorry. I don't know how to filter it for your virgin eyes. But this kind of **** PISSES ME OFF!!!

People need to start waking up and getting mad about this ****!

We don't have the liberties we have today because people bent over!
__________________
"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Goering, Nazi leader
Yega1979 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2008, 07:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
Oldmangrouch
Grumpy Pragmatist
 
Oldmangrouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Salem
Age: 53
Posts: 3,405
Credits: 10,161.23
Rep Power: 1138440 Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute Oldmangrouch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

This is disgusting. Why am I not surprised it happened in Texas?

The guy is lucky he didn't wind up like Riad Hammad.

For those not familiar with the story: Hammad was a Moslem-American peace activist in Austin Texas. When his body was found floating in a lake, the police raced to call it suicide - despite the fact he was found gagged, blinfolded, and with his hands bound!

For the record, I am not claiming "the government" killed him. The more likely scenario is that he was the victim of a hate crime. The police are covering it up because it was their very public harasment of the man that made him a target.
__________________
We enter this life naked, wet, and hungry - and it only gets worse!
Oldmangrouch is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2008, 10:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
stockfire
non-confrontational.
 
stockfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New York, NY
Age: 27
Posts: 822
Credits: 14,306.48
Rep Power: 976327 stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

The source says a lot.

Post a link sometime that isn't hosted on a conspiracy nut-job website.

Alex Jones is a fraud, homey.
__________________
For Sale: 1 Trophy Case. Perfect condition. Hasn't been used in years, contact Arsenal FC for more info.
COME ON YOU SPURS
THFC || RBNY || STL CARDINALS || BLAZERS

"Not only do I want an elite president, I want someone who's embarrassingly superior to me." - Jon Stewart
stockfire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2008, 10:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
R-Star
My Life Is Awesome
 
R-Star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Edmonton
Age: 25
Posts: 16,457
Credits: 63,898.32
Rep Power: 16510923 R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute R-Star has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

Quote:
Originally Posted by stockfire View Post
The source says a lot.

Post a link sometime that isn't hosted on a conspiracy nut-job website.

Alex Jones is a fraud, homey.
I dont doubt that its true. What surprises me though is that everyone seems to up in arms. Stuff like this has been happening for a long time. People are becoming more and more apathetic. Even if someone like Obama wins, things like this will still be going on behind the scenes.
R-Star is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2008, 08:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
Talkhard
Right on the money
 
Talkhard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Land of the Free, Home of the Brave
Posts: 8,043
Credits: 54,939.86
Rep Power: 1359069 Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute Talkhard has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

People like Rev. Wright celebrate when America gets attacked on 9/11 . . .

People like William Ayers bomb the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol and then say they wish they had done more . . .

People like Michelle Obama say they haven't been proud of their country in 25 years . . .

The leading Democratic candidate for President refuses to wear a flag pin because of "what it represents . . . "

None of this is alarming or offensive, but we're supposed to be outraged when a pastor isn't allowed to spew anti-American propaganda to a bunch of young impressionable boyscouts . . .?

Do I have that right?
__________________
"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speed bag." --Jay, lifelong Pacers fan
Talkhard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2008, 09:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
stockfire
non-confrontational.
 
stockfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New York, NY
Age: 27
Posts: 822
Credits: 14,306.48
Rep Power: 976327 stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talkhard View Post
People like Rev. Wright celebrate when America gets attacked on 9/11 . . .

People like William Ayers bomb the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol and then say they wish they had done more . . .

People like Michelle Obama say they haven't been proud of their country in 25 years . . .

The leading Democratic candidate for President refuses to wear a flag pin because of "what it represents . . . "

None of this is alarming or offensive, but we're supposed to be outraged when a pastor isn't allowed to spew anti-American propaganda to a bunch of young impressionable boyscouts . . .?

Do I have that right?

I must have missed the invite for Rev. Wrights 9/11 celebratory chip and dip party, but apparently TH was invited.

Ayers, while I'm not defending him, organized and claimed the explosion of a Pentagon toilet that killed and hurt no one.

Quote:
On Monday, the wife of presidential candidate Barack Obama told an audience in Wisconsin that, "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country because voters are hopeful and ready for change."

In an interview with WJAR-TV today, according to the Associated Press, the would-be First Lady said she said she was trying to express pride in how Americans are engaging in the political process right now.

She also said she’s proud of the country and wouldn’t be where she is if not for its possibilities.
Flag pins and bumper stickers do not a patriot make. Especially when what is "represents" is often: bandwagoning, knee-jerk, if you don't do everything I consider to be patriotic you must be a terrorist, ignore real issues and argue about pins, post-911 misguided anger.
__________________
For Sale: 1 Trophy Case. Perfect condition. Hasn't been used in years, contact Arsenal FC for more info.
COME ON YOU SPURS
THFC || RBNY || STL CARDINALS || BLAZERS

"Not only do I want an elite president, I want someone who's embarrassingly superior to me." - Jon Stewart
stockfire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2008, 09:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
maxiep
Banned Member
 
maxiep's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Denver, CO and Lake Oswego
Posts: 1,984
Rep Power: 0 maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

Quote:
Originally Posted by stockfire View Post
Ayers, while I'm not defending him, organized and claimed the explosion of a Pentagon toilet that killed and hurt no one.
Neither did the first World Trade Center bombing. Neither have all the plots that have been stopped that we've never heard of. What's your point?

Quote:
Originally Posted by stockfire View Post
Flag pins and bumper stickers do not a patriot make. Especially when what is "represents" is often: bandwagoning, knee-jerk, if you don't do everything I consider to be patriotic you must be a terrorist, ignore real issues and argue about pins, post-911 misguided anger.
I notice Sen. Obama put on the flag pin today when speaking to veterans. It's always nice to see that he shares those superficial beliefs.
maxiep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2008, 09:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
stockfire
non-confrontational.
 
stockfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New York, NY
Age: 27
Posts: 822
Credits: 14,306.48
Rep Power: 976327 stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

Quote:
Originally Posted by R-Star View Post
I dont doubt that its true. What surprises me though is that everyone seems to up in arms. Stuff like this has been happening for a long time. People are becoming more and more apathetic. Even if someone like Obama wins, things like this will still be going on behind the scenes.
My point is only that the road to conversion doesn't make a stop in Looney-town.
__________________
For Sale: 1 Trophy Case. Perfect condition. Hasn't been used in years, contact Arsenal FC for more info.
COME ON YOU SPURS
THFC || RBNY || STL CARDINALS || BLAZERS

"Not only do I want an elite president, I want someone who's embarrassingly superior to me." - Jon Stewart
stockfire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2008, 09:57 AM   #11 (permalink)
maxiep
Banned Member
 
maxiep's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Denver, CO and Lake Oswego
Posts: 1,984
Rep Power: 0 maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute maxiep has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

Quote:
Originally Posted by R-Star View Post
I dont doubt that its true. What surprises me though is that everyone seems to up in arms. Stuff like this has been happening for a long time. People are becoming more and more apathetic.
I disagree. I think people are much less accepting of acts done by the government that people view as violating our civil rights. It's just that we're better informed than we were 50-60 years ago.

Quote:
Originally Posted by R-Star View Post
Even if someone like Obama wins, things like this will still be going on behind the scenes.
You really believe in Obama that much? I subscribe to the words of Pete Townshend, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".
maxiep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2008, 09:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
stockfire
non-confrontational.
 
stockfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New York, NY
Age: 27
Posts: 822
Credits: 14,306.48
Rep Power: 976327 stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute
Re: US Gestapo threaten pastor who talks about constitution

Quote:
Originally Posted by maxiep View Post
Neither did the first World Trade Center bombing. Neither have all the plots that have been stopped that we've never heard of. What's your point?



I notice Sen. Obama put on the flag pin today when speaking to veterans. It's always nice to see that he shares those superficial beliefs.

My point was simply to add context to TH's post. He often leaves out and spins information to further his view. My point was only to add information for someone who might be fresh to the spin zone.

It's sad that any candidate's decision to wear or not to wear a tiny pin is a topic of discussion. I don't think it makes him more patriotic for wearing it just I don't think it makes you patriotic to wear american flag boxers or a air-brushed t-shirt of a bald eagle.
__________________
For Sale: 1 Trophy Case. Perfect condition. Hasn't been used in years, contact Arsenal FC for more info.
COME ON YOU SPURS
THFC || RBNY || STL CARDINALS || BLAZERS

"Not only do I want an elite president, I want someone who's embarrassingly superior to me." - Jon Stewart
stockfire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2008, 10:00 AM   #13 (permalink)
stockfire
non-confrontational.
 
stockfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New York, NY
Age: 27
Posts: 822
Credits: 14,306.48
Rep Power: 976327 stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute stockfire has a reputation beyond repute