[It's_GO_Time]

Originally Posted by Ed O

A difference would be, of course, that McCain has a long voting record in the US Senate that establishes a history.

That's what scares me . . . by the looks of him, his voting record must date back to the middle ages.

Really, how many people here would want a 72 year old president. My father is 74, and I wouldn't trust him to program my DVD machine. The everyday stress a president endures . . . I doubt McCain is physically and mentally capable of handling the job effectively.

[maxiep]

Originally Posted by STOMP

I thought I explained my view in a strait forward manner so it seems you're confusing matters on purpose. I think they are by far the most partisan outlet. And you are aware that FOX is just one of Rupert's many media outlets right???

STOMP

It may seem to you that I'm confusing matters. I assure you that's not the case. I merely disagree with your opinion that FOX is "by far the most partisan outlet". I believe it to be MSNBC. Others agree with me on this board. I've provided specific example after specific example as to why, and you've provided us with a montage of incomplete clips by "foxattacks.com".

As for Rupert Murdoch's other holdings, yep, I'm aware of them. In fact, I was aware of them before FOX News was ever created. What's your point?

[maxiep]

Originally Posted by It's_GO_Time

That's what scares me . . . by the looks of him, his voting record must date back to the middle ages.

Really, how many people here would want a 72 year old president. My father is 74, and I wouldn't trust him to program my DVD machine. The everyday stress a president endures . . . I doubt McCain is physically and mentally capable of handling the job effectively.

So I guess that being racist is a no-no, being sexist is not really appropriate but being ageist is perfectly acceptable?

[yuyuza1]

Originally Posted by maxiep

So I guess that being racist is a no-no, being sexist is not really appropriate but being ageist is perfectly acceptable?

Does being a minority affect a person's ability to perform duties as best possible? No, but I'd argue that old age does.

[It's_GO_Time]

Originally Posted by maxiep

So I guess that being racist is a no-no, being sexist is not really appropriate but being ageist is perfectly acceptable?

I guess so. The only differnce I see is that it can be shown that the aging process has an effect on the brian and one's physical capabilities. I don't think skin and and gender do.

[maxiep]

Originally Posted by yuyuza1

Does being a minority affect a person's ability to perform duties as best possible? No, but I'd argue that old age does.

That's okay. There are plenty of people who believe women and certain minorities aren't as capable as others. And I have the right to disagree with them too.

[e_blazer1]

McCain's too old to be president.
Obama's too inexperienced to be president.
I guess that leaves Hillary, but it doesn't look like she's going to be the nominee.

Hmmm. What a conundrum.

[maxiep]

Originally Posted by It's_GO_Time

I guess so. The only differnce I see is that it can be shown that the aging process has an effect on the brian and one's physical capabilities. I don't think skin and and gender do.

And it's my belief that experience offsets any effects age may have.

I think we need to look at the age vs. average life expectancy. For example, FDR was elected for the 4th time in 1944 at the age of 62 when the average life expectancy was 65. George Washington and John Adams were both elected long after the average person their age was room temperature.

[It's_GO_Time]

Originally Posted by maxiep

And it's my belief that experience offsets any effects age may have.

I agree . . up to a point. Have you seen McCain. And you say experience offsets any effects age may have? Really? Alzheimer, memory loss, senility is all offset by experience?

As some point old age effects your abiltiy do get the job done. What is that age is up to each person. But if I had to get a surgery done or needed a trial attorney, and all other factors being equal, I go with the 40+ or 50+, not the 70+ . . . come to think of it, there aren't many, if any jobs, I would want a 70+ year old doing over a 40+ and that includes the highly demanding job of being presiedent of the United States.

Obviously with the president there are many factors invovled. But the age thing for McCain has got to be a big negative . . . maybe he overcomes it because he is so much better than Obama, but I don't see how starting a presidencey at age 72 is a good thing in and of itself.

[It's_GO_Time]

Originally Posted by e_blazer1

McCain's too old to be president.
Obama's too inexperienced to be president.
I guess that leaves Hillary, but it doesn't look like she's going to be the nominee.

Hmmm. What a conundrum.

No conundrum . . . just write in "Kevin Pritchard."

[maxiep]

Originally Posted by It's_GO_Time

I agree . . up to a point. Have you seen McCain. And you say experience offsets any effects age may have? Really? Alzheimer, memory loss, senility is all offset by experience?

As some point old age effects your abiltiy do get the job done. What is that age is up to each person. But if I had to get a surgery done or needed a trial attorney, and all other factors being equal, I go with the 40+ or 50+, not the 70+ . . . come to think of it, there aren't many, if any jobs, I would want a 70+ year old doing over a 40+ and that includes the highly demanding job of being presiedent of the United States.

Obviously with the president there are many factors invovled. But the age thing for McCain has got to be a big negative . . . maybe he overcomes it because he is so much better than Obama, but I don't see how starting a presidencey at age 72 is a good thing in and of itself.

Should we assume that Barack Obama will get sickle cell anemia because it is more prevalent in black people than other races? Should we assume Hillary Clinton is going to get breast cancer because it's more prevalent in women than men? Those kind of silly arguments are the same ones you seem to be buying into regarding Sen. McCain's age.

Luckily for you, this is a free country. You're free to discriminate in any way you wish when you cast your ballot.

[It's_GO_Time]

Originally Posted by maxiep

Should we assume that Barack Obama will get sickle cell anemia because it is more prevalent in black people than other races? Should we assume Hillary Clinton is going to get breast cancer because it's more prevalent in women than men? Those kind of silly arguments are the same ones you seem to be buying into regarding Sen. McCain's age.

Luckily for you, this is a free country. You're free to discriminate in any way you wish.

Thank you for your blessing . . . I couldn't vote in good conscious without it.

The difference with your analogy is there is 100% chance old age leads decrease brain activity and memory loss. Can you say the same about sickle cell anemia in black people or breast cancer in women.

I get you trying to spin the age issue, but label it discrimination a red herring or whatever . . . it will be an issue this election and I suspect republicans will get as defensive about it as democrats get about Obama's heritage or his pastor.

[e_blazer1]

I'll admit that McCain's age is a concern for me. I'd be much happier if he were ten years younger.

Hope he picks a good VP.