[maxiep]

Originally Posted by STOMP

since this discussion has obviously run it's course can we finally start discussing Scott McClellan's new book?



STOMP

STOMP, if I may, it's probably worthy of its own thread. A lot of it is Washington inside baseball, but just as much is pretty interesting.

[MARIS61]

Originally Posted by Balian

What is the purpose of a formal title then?

To massage Royally insecure egos?

[barfo]

Originally Posted by Balian

The confusion is that Obama stated he was a constitutional law professor. Officially, he was not. Since the university didn't want to embarrass their former employee on a national stage, they used vague terms such as "served as" or "regarded as" to answered huge media inquiries.

Officially, the university gets to decide, and they officially decided that he could call himself a professor. You may not like it, but they get to decide whatever they like about titles.

His formal title was senior lecturer and nothing more.

No one is arguing otherwise. And if he'd claimed his formal title was professor, then your last 20 posts would have had some sort of a point.

barfo

[Balian]

Originally Posted by MARIS61

To massage Royally insecure egos?

Its not insecure as egos claiming something he is not.

[Balian]

Originally Posted by barfo

Officially, the university gets to decide, and they officially decided that he could call himself a professor. You may not like it, but they get to decide whatever they like about titles.



No one is arguing otherwise. And if he'd claimed his formal title was professor, then your last 20 posts would have had some sort of a point.

barfo

I am a constitutional law professor = formal title. How else are you going to interpret it? He didn't say he served as a professor or was regarded as a professor. Would a person claim he was a school teacher when his formal title was assistant?

[barfo]

Originally Posted by Balian

I am a constitutional law professor = formal title. How else are you going to interpret it? He didn't say he served as a professor or was regarded as a professor. Would a person claim he was a school teacher when his formal title is assistant?

I often say I'm a businessman when I don't want to explain in gory detail, but my card does not actually say "Businessman" below my name. Perhaps I've been dishonest?

Most people, in fact, don't describe what they do via recital of their formal title.

barfo

[Balian]

Originally Posted by barfo

I often say I'm a businessman when I don't want to explain in gory detail, but my card does not actually say "Businessman" below my name. Perhaps I've been dishonest?

Most people, in fact, don't describe what they do via recital of their formal title.

barfo

Well, there's a huge gap between "constitutional law professor" and lecturer. That was his actual term "constitutional law professor." Which term has the gory details again? He could have said he taught constitutional law and be done with it. Instead, he wanted the audience to be impressed.

[MARIS61]

Originally Posted by Balian

As for Kentucky bordering Arkansas, it does.

Wrong. It borders Illinois(Obama's residential state), not Arkansas. Seriously, I live in Oregon and I know which states it borders and I bet you ....never mind.

You graduated from Harvard too?
http://www.infoplease.com/states.html

Are you deliberately attacking my set-up line while editing out my punch line, or do you struggle with the English language?

I'll help you out here. It gets more laughs when you say it together like this:

As for Kentucky bordering Arkansas, it does.
Near the bottom of any scholastic achievement chart.

[barfo]

Originally Posted by Balian

Well, there's a huge gap between "constitutional law professor" and lecturer.

The difference, in Obama's case, appears to be solely that he didn't want a full-time professorship:

Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

barfo

[Balian]

Originally Posted by MARIS61

Are you deliberately attacking my set-up line while editing out my punch line, or do you struggle with the English language?

I help you out here. It gets more laughs when you say it together like this:

As for Kentucky bordering Arkansas, it does.
Near the bottom of any scholastic achievement chart.

I am sorry, I didn't realize you tried to be funny. In terms of scholastic achievement, you know Illinois is ranked lower than that of Kentucky and Arkansas right? The joke is on you I guess ...at least according to this ranking.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0931043.html

[Balian]

Originally Posted by barfo

The difference, in Obama's case, appears to be solely that he didn't want a full-time professorship:



barfo

Amen bro. Thanks for proving that he was not a professor. They wouldn't offer him a professor position if he was one.

[barfo]

Originally Posted by Balian

Amen bro. Thanks for proving that he was not a professor.

If we are going to argue such a silly topic, the least you could do is try to be honest about the discussion.

barfo

[Balian]

Originally Posted by barfo

If we are going to argue such a silly topic, the least you could do is try to be honest about the discussion.

barfo

Sorry, I thought you could connect the dots. If he was already a professor, then why would they offered him a professor position?