[Talkhard]

Just a few questions regarding The Great Iowa Flood vs. Hurricane Katrina

Why aren't all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons and asking for help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?

Why isn't the media asking the tough questions about why the federal government hasn't solved the problem?

Where are all the FEMA trucks and trailers?

Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels in Chicago?

When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees that failed in Des Moines?

Where is Sean Penn in his rescue boat and the Dixie Chicks?

Where are all the 24/7 lurid news tales of cannibalism and unnecessary drownings?

Why did Iowans evacuate so prematurely; why are they not holed up in deathtrap sports centers?

Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen television sets?

When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a 'vanilla' Iowa, because that's the way God wants it?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural people?

Why are the Iowans not complaining more and demanding to be saved?

How come in about 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever again?

Deep thoughts...

[hasoos]

Great post Talkhard! You showed how totally clueless you are in trying to associate the amount of damage done by this flood, and what happened in New Orleans. Way to go!

[MARIS61]

Like comparing a golf ball to the Earth, magnitude-wise.

But attitude-wise you are on target.

NO had Jazz, "colorful" people, a disproportionate percentage of the infirm, the addicted, the lazy, the selfish, and of course the brain-dead who continually put their lives and all their belongings in a city built BELOW SEA LEVEL, one which has flooded many, many, many times in the past. They pretty much saved themselves, every man for himself, and then looted their less fortunate neighbors while they waited for the handouts they hoped were coming. As shameful and appalling as Bush/Cheney's failure to respond was, I was disgusted even more by the lack of coming together or local volunteerism that followed. Years later, the majority is still hoping for a handout, not a hand up.

Iowa has only corn and pigs, and for the most part is a bunch of hardworking white folks who built their homes in a place that's never flooded in the history of this country, who helped each other rescue lives and belongings, and are already organizing themselves to rebuild and restore. They'll be back to business as usual before stars have time to get there for photo-ops.

Oddly enough, I expect McCain to win in NO and Obama to win in Iowa.

[Talkhard]

Originally Posted by MARIS61

Like comparing a golf ball to the Earth, magnitude-wise.

Hardly. The Iowa flooding covers a much larger area than New Orleans, and it's going to cost billions to mop up and restore the infrastructure. Iowa also contributes more to the nation in terms of its agriculatural production, dairy farms, etc. Our "breadbasket" has received a mighty blow.

NO had Jazz, "colorful" people, a disproportionate percentage of the infirm, the addicted, the lazy, the selfish, and of course the brain-dead who continually put their lives and all their belongings in a city built BELOW SEA LEVEL, one which has flooded many, many, many times in the past. They pretty much saved themselves, every man for himself, and then looted their less fortunate neighbors while they waited for the handouts they hoped were coming. As shameful and appalling as Bush/Cheney's failure to respond was, I was disgusted even more by the lack of coming together or local volunteerism that followed. Years later, the majority is still hoping for a handout, not a hand up.

Iowa has only corn and pigs, and for the most part is a bunch of hardworking white folks who built their homes in a place that's never flooded in the history of this country, who helped each other rescue lives and belongings, and are already organizing themselves to rebuild and restore. They'll be back to business as usual before stars have time to get there for photo-ops.

You got it. That's exactly the point of my original post.

[hasoos]

Originally Posted by Talkhard

Hardly. The Iowa flooding covers a much larger area than New Orleans, and it's going to cost billions to mop up and restore the infrastructure. Iowa also contributes more to the nation in terms of its agriculatural production, dairy farms, etc. Our "breadbasket" has received a mighty blow.


You got it. That's exactly the point of my original post.

Hello. In case you haven't been paying attention to agriculture over the history of mankind, it is well known that the most fertile farming locations are flood plains. It is also well known that if you live there, you are going to get flooded, but that's ok, because it makes your ground more fertile.

Secondly, you can bet the country will band behind them for rebuilding. That is what this country does. Most of the events you listed up above usually start taking place after the event has come to pass. Not while right in the middle of it still. I can just see it now, John Cougar Mellencamp and and U2 hanging out.

John Cougar: Hey there is a flood going on right now in the midwest

U2: Let's get the emergency flood concert crew together and have a fund raiser tomorrow night! We all just sit around waiting for stuff like this to happen don't we?

John Cougar: Yep we have a disaster relief concert ready to go at any moment. Now we can have the concert while the disaster is still taking place! That is what I call response time.

[Talkhard]

Originally Posted by hasoos

Hello. In case you haven't been paying attention to agriculture over the history of mankind, it is well known that the most fertile farming locations are flood plains. It is also well known that if you live there, you are going to get flooded, but that's ok, because it makes your ground more fertile.

Secondly, you can bet the country will band behind them for rebuilding. That is what this country does. Most of the events you listed up above usually start taking place after the event has come to pass. Not while right in the middle of it still. I can just see it now, John Cougar Mellencamp and and U2 hanging out.

John Cougar: Hey there is a flood going on right now in the midwest

U2: Let's get the emergency flood concert crew together and have a fund raiser tomorrow night! We all just sit around waiting for stuff like this to happen don't we?

John Cougar: Yep we have a disaster relief concert ready to go at any moment. Now we can have the concert while the disaster is still taking place! That is what I call response time.

Hello. Hello? The flooding has been going on for several days now. Sean Penn could be out there in his boat rescuing people and livestock, if he wanted to. A telethon could certainly be held right now, while the flood is in progress. The Iowans were also smart enough to evacuate when the flood waters started rising. And it's certainly not too early for the Iowans to start moaning and whining about how they need to be "saved," as the folks in New Orleans did. They could even be riding around in their boats looting stores and other farms, if they were so inclined.

The fact is, the Iowans have a different attitude towards these kinds of natural disasters. They don't sit on their butts *****ing and complaining--they pull themselves up by their bootstraps and help solve the problem themselves. It's the can-do American spirit that makes this country great, which was conspicously absent in New Orleans during and after Katrina.

[hoojacks]

Way to use one group of people's suffering to belittle another group of people's suffering. Everybody loses, especially you. Good show.

[stockfire]

Originally Posted by hoojacks

Way to use one group of people's suffering to belittle another group of people's suffering. Everybody loses, especially you. Good show.

What he said. Shameful.

[Dornado]

Originally Posted by hoojacks

Way to use one group of people's suffering to belittle another group of people's suffering. Everybody loses, especially you. Good show.

Really, just absurd.

Also, claims like "the flood covered a greater area" without taking into account population density...

But hey, you're right Talkhard, Katrina wasn't a tragedy... it was New Orleans fault. Good one.

[Dornado]

Despite Framing, Iowa Flood no Hurricane Katrina

"This is our version of Katrina."

That's what Johnson County Emergency Management spokesman Mike Sullivan told the Chicago Tribune.

Mike Sullivan should be ashamed.

As a transplant from Mississippi, I've known both natural disasters intimately. In both, water rose, ravaged. People were affected. That's where the comparison ends.

For Hurricane Katrina, the death toll is still unknown. Sourcewatch.org argues that, because of the disaster's lasting effects, it's still rising. Some counts put it higher than 4,000.

And how many people have died in Johnson County?

[Dan]

I hear darker skinned people live in New Orleans....that must be the reason.

[Talkhard]

Originally Posted by Dornado

Despite Framing, Iowa Flood no Hurricane Katrina

I guess she's right. There really is no comparison. In Iowa there has been no looting, no blaming of the government, and no refusals to evacuate when the warning came. Everybody is acting like responsible adults instead of victims. So, completely different situations.